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Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:55 am
by _Markk
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:We can just keep it simple. Evolution through natural selection. Pretty much the most documented scientific theory that exists. Not sure how you're shoehorning intelligent design into the process...
- Doc
I was just pointing out it is not settled.
But natural selection is fine if that is the theory you believe...if these theories were religions in a classic sense,then you might be catholic.
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:09 am
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Evolution, as a scientific theory, is as settled as the theory of gravity or relativity.
https://np.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfi ... nderstand/?
- Doc
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:33 am
by _EAllusion
Markk wrote: I was just pointing out it is not settled.
But natural selection is fine if that is the theory you believe...if these theories were religions in a classic sense,then you might be catholic.
You listed a serious of terms that aren't various, mutually exclusive subschools of evolutionary theory in the way that Catholicism is a specific subtype of religion. Evo-devo and evolution via natural selection are not competing theories of evolution. One is a type of mechanism of evolution and the other is a field of evolutionary study. They're broadly compatible. You don't "believe in" one or the other. You mix mutually compatible mechanisms and overlapping schools in your list throughout. Your question didn't make sense. It's just literate enough to through some terms up, but not literate enough to know what those terms mean.
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:49 am
by _EAllusion
Or the wing...why would a wing continue to develop in mutation form, if it did not serve the species...okay it took billions of years, yet the fossil record falls short in all these different examples.
Yes. If only someone, somewhere, just one time answered the "what good is half a wing" criticism of evolutionary theory. Sadly, in the history of science, no one has ever explained this one. You've sure stumped those evilutionists Markk. Now explain how that enhances the argument that life was designed.
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:51 am
by _Markk
EAllusion wrote:You listed a serious of terms that aren't various, mutually exclusive subschools of evolutionary theory in the way that Catholicism is a specific subtype of religion. Evo-devo and evolution via natural selection are not competing theories of evolution. One is a type of mechanism of evolution and the other is a field of evolutionary study. They're broadly compatible. You don't "believe in" one or the other. You mix mutually compatible mechanisms and overlapping schools in your list throughout. Your question didn't make sense. It's just literate enough to through some terms up, but not literate enough to know what those terms mean.
Oh...kind of like Baptists, Methodists, and Presbyterians are broadly compatible...okay you are Southern Baptist.
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:56 am
by _Jersey Girl
EAllusion wrote: Your question didn't make sense. It's just literate enough to through some terms up, but not literate enough to know what those terms mean.
Hey Mr. Literacy,
Did you mean "throw"?
;-)
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:02 am
by _EAllusion
Markk wrote:Oh...kind of like Baptists, Methodists, and Presbyterians are broadly compatible...okay you are Southern Baptist.
No. All this analogy does is narrow the differences in subtype. Your list isn't a list of competing schools of evolutionary theory, though that's what you take it to be. Endosymbiosis and natural selection aren't different theories of evolution. Endosymbiosis can fix in a population via natural selection. They're just different mechanistic concepts inside of evolutionary theory. On the one hand, you know enough to have heard those words somewhere, but not enough to know what they exactly mean. Your question was word salad.
DocCam's statement is simply that the theory that biodiversity is the result of descent with modification from a single ancestor or small group of ancestors is extremely well-established.
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:03 am
by _EAllusion
Jersey Girl wrote:Hey Mr. Literacy,
Did you mean "throw"?
;-)
I'm typing on a small device here :p.
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:06 am
by _Jersey Girl
EAllusion wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:Hey Mr. Literacy,
Did you mean "throw"?
;-)
I'm typing on a small device here :p.
Oh you are not.
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:06 am
by _Markk
The theory of evolution is the scientific theory that explains why there is so much variety and complexity in the natural world. Be warned that it doesn't explain what initially started life in the first place - all it explains is the variety of life we have.