Discriminatory Cake Making: The Free Exercise of Religion

[_moksha]

Compelling a business to provide a cake to a same-sex couple to protect their feelings is not a legitimate exercise of state power in light of those principles.

What about the "so called" Federal Courts requiring Woolworths to seat blacks at their luncheonette? That is only a stone throw and several decades from us allowing them in our Temples!!!

[_Jersey Girl]

Compelling a business to provide a cake to a same-sex couple to protect their feelings is not a legitimate exercise of state power in light of those principles.

How about providing a cake to a same-sex couple because they ordered one just like you or I would order one?

[_hobo1512]

If, the bakery had never done business with this couple before, I could agree with them saying no. However, that is not the case. They had an established business relationship, based on previous orders and purchases. They arbitrarily chose this time to not provide services.


Any way you slice it (haha) that is discrimination, pure and simple.

What if the customers were black, and got birthday cakes for their kids, but, when it came to order a cake for their biracial marriage, they refused. Discrimination right?

Didn't Bring em young go on some tirade about mixed marriages?

[_Dr. Shades]

I haven't paid much attention to MAD since the Great Board War of 2011 when Nemesis/Jan had a meltdown of epic proportions. If you want a good laugh, go read her posts during that time.

I'm downright positive it'll be impossible to hunt down her specifically relevant posts from that far back, so will you please give us a Reader's Digest Condensed Version of what took place?

Thanks!

[_MrSimpleton]

I haven't paid much attention to MAD since the Great Board War of 2011 when Nemesis/Jan had a meltdown of epic proportions. If you want a good laugh, go read her posts during that time.

I'm downright positive it'll be impossible to hunt down her specifically relevant posts from that far back, so will you please give us a Reader's Digest Condensed Version of what took place?

Thanks!

Who is Jan? Is Nemesis, Dang?

[_I have a question]

Compelling a business to provide a cake to a same-sex couple to protect their feelings is not a legitimate exercise of state power in light of those principles.

How about providing a cake to a same-sex couple because they ordered one just like you or I would order one?

It's disconcerting that the arguments being used to justify discrimination on grounds of religious belief bear strong resemblance to the arguments previously used to justify racial discrimination.

[_ldsfaqs]

If, the bakery had never done business with this couple before, I could agree with them saying no. However, that is not the case. They had an established business relationship, based on previous orders and purchases. They arbitrarily chose this time to not provide services.


Any way you slice it (haha) that is discrimination, pure and simple.

What if the customers were black, and got birthday cakes for their kids, but, when it came to order a cake for their biracial marriage, they refused. Discrimination right?

Didn't Bring em young go on some tirade about mixed marriages?

Like I've said..... Race is something someone is born as, it's not an "activity" like Homosexual relations are an activity.

Further, if someone doesn't believe in Bi-racial marriage, why do you somehow think they should be forced to serve it?
Does the liberal brain really not understand how they are forcing things are others, the same thing could be done to them and they won't like it either?

Like what if Rush Limbaugh wants you to cater his wedding? Do you really think you don't have the RIGHT to decline because you don't agree with him ideologically? Or do you really believe you should be FORCED by the gun of the state to cater a wedding concerning people or ideology's you don't support?

You people are trully clueless what you are doing..... You're doing the exact same thing you complain about religion has done or might still do toward people infringing on their rights. Do you people really not comprehend this...? People have the right to be an ass, and that includes businesses, which are run by people.

[_Chap]

Further, if someone doesn't believe in Bi-racial marriage, why do you somehow think they should be forced to serve it?
Does the liberal brain really not understand how they are forcing things are others, the same thing could be done to them and they won't like it either?

Oh, I think it may be something to do with the great majority of Americans wanting to be done with all the stuff about black people being denied things that were available to white people.

So they decided that the loss of liberty for the tiny minority of Americans who have prejudices based on skin color was far, far outweighed by the benefits gained by many people of color from insisting that any business offering service to white people had to offer the same service to black people, or (if we are talking couples or groups) to any combination of black and white people.

If you don't like that, it's a democracy and you can try to get the law changed to allow racial discrimination again. Don't think you will manage to gather a majority, somehow. It's that old 'all men are created equal' stuff that influences people, I guess.

[_I have a question]

People have the right to be an ass, and that includes businesses, which are run by people.

Actually, as the OP shows, they don't.
They have the right to run their business how they see fit providing it is operated within the confines of the law. Failure to operate a business within the confines of the law results in sanction. Not selling cakes to customers on the basis of their God-given sexuality is deemed against the law. End of.

*Note. The idea that being gay is a choice and not hard wired, was buried last Friday.

[_hobo1512]

People have the right to be an ass, and that includes businesses, which are run by people.

Yes, they have the right to be an ass, and they are also free to receive the results of it too. In this case, $135,000.00 of it.

You have also ignored the fact that this bakery had done business with these people before. They had an established business relationship, and then they arbitrarily decided to discriminate against them.