The world is getting better all the time. 11 charts.

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Dr. Shades wrote:
honorentheos wrote:These artificially constrained systems become prone to Black Swans.

But I think Taleb's argument that pursuing and loving stability leads to a build up of conditions that increase the potential for large negative Black Swan events is validated by observation.

Okay, I'll bite: What is a "Black Swan event?"

This New York Times summary of Taleb's book, The Black Swan, explains it pretty well:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/books/chapters/0422-1st-tale.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Excerpts:

Before the discovery of Australia, people in the old world were convinced that all swans were white, an unassailable belief as it seemed completely confirmed by empirical evidence. The sighting of the first black swan might have been an interesting surprise for a few ornithologists (and others extremely concerned with the coloring of birds), but that is not where the significance of the story lies. It illustrates a severe limitation to our learning from observations or experience and the fragility of our knowledge. One single observation can invalidate a general statement derived from millennia of confirmatory sightings of millions of white swans. All you need is one single (and, I am told, quite ugly) black bird.

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What we call here a Black Swan (and capitalize it) is an event with the following three attributes.

First, it is an outlier, as it lies outside the realm of regular expectations, because nothing in the past can convincingly point to its possibility.

Second, it carries an extreme impact.

Third, in spite of its outlier status, human nature makes us concoct explanations for its occurrence after the fact, making it explainable and predictable.

I stop and summarize the triplet: rarity, extreme impact, and retrospective (though not prospective) predictability. A small number of Black Swans explain almost everything in our world, from the success of ideas and religions, to the dynamics of historical events, to elements of our own personal lives. Ever since we left the Pleistocene, some ten millennia ago, the effect of these Black Swans has been increasing. It started accelerating during the industrial revolution, as the world started getting more complicated, while ordinary events, the ones we study and discuss and try to predict from reading the newspapers, have become increasingly inconsequential.

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The central idea of this book concerns our blindness with respect to randomness, particularly the large deviations: Why do we, scientists or nonscientists, hotshots or regular Joes, tend to see the pennies instead of the dollars? Why do we keep focusing on the minutiae, not the possible significant large events, in spite of the obvious evidence of their huge influence? And, if you follow my argument, why does reading the newspaper actually decrease your knowledge of the world?

It is easy to see that life is the cumulative effect of a handful of significant shocks. It is not so hard to identify the role of Black Swans, from your armchair (or bar stool). Go through the following exercise. Look into your own existence. Count the significant events, the technological changes, and the inventions that have taken place in our environment since you were born and compare them to what was expected before their advent. How many of them came on a schedule? Look into your own personal life, to your choice of profession, say, or meeting your mate, your exile from your country of origin, the betrayals you faced, your sudden enrichment or impoverishment. How often did these things occur according to plan?

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The inability to predict outliers implies the inability to predict the course of history, given the share of these events in the dynamics of events.

But we act as though we are able to predict historical events, or, even worse, as if we are able to change the course of history. We produce thirty year projections of social security deficits and oil prices without realizing that we cannot even predict these for next summer-our cumulative prediction errors for political and economic events are so monstrous that every time I look at the empirical record I have to pinch myself to verify that I am not dreaming. What is surprising is not the magnitude of our forecast errors, but our absence of awareness of it.

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Our inability to predict in environments subjected to the Black Swan, coupled with a general lack of the awareness of this state of affairs, means that certain professionals, while believing they are experts, are in fact not based on their empirical record, they do not know more about their subject matter than the general population, but they are much better at narrating-or, worse, at smoking you with complicated mathematical models. They are also more likely to wear a tie.

Black Swans being unpredictable, we need to adjust to their existence (rather than naïvely try to predict them). There are so many things we can do if we focus on anti knowledge, or what we do not know. Among many other benefits, you can set yourself up to collect serendipitous Black Swans by maximizing your exposure to them.

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This is a book about uncertainty; to this author, the rare event equals uncertainty. This may seem like a strong statement-that we need to principally study the rare and extreme events in order to figure out common ones-but I will make myself clear as follows. There are two possible ways to approach phenomena. The first is to rule out the extraordinary and focus on the "normal." The examiner leaves aside "outliers" and studies ordinary cases. The second approach is to consider that in order to understand a phenomenon, one needs to first consider the extremes-particularly if, like the Black Swan, they carry an extraordinary cumulative effect.

I don't particularly care about the usual. If you want to get an idea of a friend's temperament, ethics, and personal elegance, you need to look at him under the tests of severe circumstances, not under the regular rosy glow of daily life. Can you assess the danger a criminal poses by examining only what he does on an ordinary day? Can we understand health without considering wild diseases and epidemics? Indeed the normal is often irrelevant. Almost everything in social life is produced by rare but consequential shocks and jumps; all the while almost everything studied about social life focuses on the "normal," particularly with "bell curve" methods of inference that tell you close to nothing. Why? Because the bell curve ignores large deviations, cannot handle them, yet makes us confident that we have tamed uncertainty. Its nickname in this book is GIF, Great Intellectual Fraud. . . .
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Dr. Shades wrote:
honorentheos wrote:These artificially constrained systems become prone to Black Swans.

But I think Taleb's argument that pursuing and loving stability leads to a build up of conditions that increase the potential for large negative Black Swan events is validated by observation.

Okay, I'll bite: What is a "Black Swan event?"


If every swan you see is white, you might conclude that all swans are white. If all of the historical economic data you see regarding the relationship between interest rates, inflation, employment, stock returns, bond default rates, etc., follow smooth predictable relationships with parameters in fixed ranges, you might assume that they always do.

Just because something never happened in the past doesn't mean it couldn't happen in the future. When a big, negative event happens that couldn't have been predicted based upon past trends because it never happened before, it is a black swan.
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The turkey problem seems to be only a criticism of the length of period studied. Follow turkeys and butchers over five years, for example, and the slaughter at three years becomes just another part of the data.
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As someone who's been alive 43 years, and lived in many places, homes, environments, with all kinds of peoples, friends, races, followed the news since a young age while others my age were reading comics and doing "social" self absorbed things, etc.
I can see for CERTAIN the world is going to hell..... It's a pure fact.

The fact that the world is improving in "some" areas does not mean other areas are improving.
Further, anyone's that's studied history and scripture, see's the same exact patterns in civilizations and cultures.
They progress, become great, successful, all kinds of things, and they also start to become more wicked, freedoms start being taken away, mans inhumanity to man increases, and the civilizations not long after fall.

Today is no different. It is the truly blind that think otherwise in their ignorance. Religion or not, the facts are plain as day compared to history.
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ldsfaqs wrote:As someone who's been alive 43 years, and lived in many places, homes, environments, with all kinds of peoples, friends, races, followed the news since a young age while others my age were reading comics and doing "social" self absorbed things, etc.
I can see for CERTAIN the world is going to hell..... It's a pure fact.

The fact that the world is improving in "some" areas does not mean other areas are improving.
Further, anyone's that's studied history and scripture, see's the same exact patterns in civilizations and cultures.
They progress, become great, successful, all kinds of things, and they also start to become more wicked, freedoms start being taken away, mans inhumanity to man increases, and the civilizations not long after fall.

Today is no different. It is the truly blind that think otherwise in their ignorance. Religion or not, the facts are plain as day compared to history.


Got any charts backing you up?
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The Erotic Apologist wrote: ...

An Assyrian clay tablet dating to around 2800 B.C. bears the inscription: “Our Earth is degenerate in these later days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching.”

Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/t ... u0k2x5Y.99


I really wish I could find an archeologically authenticated source for that.

But alas, I can't. And 2,800 BCE is probably a bit early for Assyria in any case.
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Dr. Shades wrote:Okay, I'll bite: What is a "Black Swan event?"


The world becomes possessed with ballet dancing and goes off the deep end. Only prolonged therapy with a nutcracker can help alleviate the symptoms. Unfortunately, the therapy hurts like hell.
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Huckstep wrote:The turkey problem seems to be only a criticism of the length of period studied. Follow turkeys and butchers over five years, for example, and the slaughter at three years becomes just another part of the data.

Thus the third characteristic of a black swan event -

Third, in spite of its outlier status, human nature makes us concoct explanations for its occurrence after the fact, making it explainable and predictable.
The theory is that confabulating explanations for past black swans creates a false sense of understanding that one ought to have been able to predict it given the right data. Alas,...
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Chap wrote:
The Erotic Apologist wrote: ...

An Assyrian clay tablet dating to around 2800 B.C. bears the inscription: “Our Earth is degenerate in these later days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching.”

Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/t ... u0k2x5Y.99


I really wish I could find an archeologically authenticated source for that.

But alas, I can't. And 2,800 BCE is probably a bit early for Assyria in any case.


You may be right...

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ldsfaqs wrote:As someone who's been alive 43 years, and lived in many places, homes, environments, with all kinds of peoples, friends, races, followed the news since a young age while others my age were reading comics and doing "social" self absorbed things, etc.
I can see for CERTAIN the world is going to hell..... It's a pure fact.

The fact that the world is improving in "some" areas does not mean other areas are improving.
Further, anyone's that's studied history and scripture, see's the same exact patterns in civilizations and cultures.
They progress, become great, successful, all kinds of things, and they also start to become more wicked, freedoms start being taken away, mans inhumanity to man increases, and the civilizations not long after fall.

Today is no different. It is the truly blind that think otherwise in their ignorance. Religion or not, the facts are plain as day compared to history.


Yeah, confirmation bias is a bitch, isn't it?
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