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Jersey Girl wrote:That said, I think it's pretty effing low for people to question that you served in the military.
The Erotic Apologist wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:That said, I think it's pretty effing low for people to question that you served in the military.
Oh please. Faqs brings it all on himself. What comes around goes around.
Jersey Girl wrote:Like I said, it's pretty effing low, TEA.
The Erotic Apologist wrote:Jersey Girl wrote:Like I said, it's pretty effing low, TEA.
You've honestly never encountered someone who lies about having served in the military? Or, having served, who lies about the extent and nature of their service in a bid for undeserved credibility?
Which is worse?
You've honestly never encountered someone who lies about having served in the military?
Or, having served, who lies about the extent and nature of their service in a bid for undeserved credibility?
No, that's not all what I mean.Jersey Girl wrote:You mean the war stories that start with "I remember the time...?" I've heard tons of those.
All of which is a small part of a larger, ongoing discussion that's been going on much longer than this single, solitary thread.Jersey Girl wrote:That's not what faqs did. He mentioned that he was a Marine and discussed weapons. People here are asking about what type of discharge he got, what's on his DD214. That's not our business.
No, that's not at all what this is about. The problem is that he cites his military service, his abortive career as a LEO, his fictitious study of criminal law, his nonexistent knowledge of Mopologetics, and his intense investigation of the nature of evil as evidence in support of some very offensive ideas and beliefs.Jersey Girl wrote:What I don't see is him digging into anyone else's personal life or asking them for proof of who they say they are or what they've accomplished. If he's done this, I missed it.
I don't know. I do know that he's lied about more than a few other things, though. He's also very quick to call virtually every one who disagrees with his religion or his politics a liar.Jersey Girl wrote:Now that I've answered your questions, here is my only question for you.
Was he lying, TEA?
Are you of the opinion that there's no such thing as someone who lies about the nature and extent of his/her military service?Jersey Girl wrote:The Erotic Apologist wrote:You've honestly never encountered someone who lies about having served in the military?
No.
Unfortunately, there is no online readable English text, and the downloaders are infected with virus.the plots wrote:Lot begins right after two American cities, Pittsburgh and Los Angeles, have been hit by atomic bombs. In L.A. there is a panicked stream of autos flooding out of the entire region on any road that will handle traffic at all. Its akin to the last final traffic jam of Stephen King's The Stand, and probably the first time we see this in literature. Jimmon is an uptight insurance executive with a wife, two boys and a daughter. He has foreseen the impending attack, and is ready to go with a station wagon packed full of supplies when the attack happens. The Jimmons live somewhere in the California South Coast near Malibu, so when they get going they head up the 101 to a secret base that Jimmon has already established. Jimmon and his young daughter are the only ones in the car who acknowledge that this is the start of the end of it all. Jimmon hates his wife and can barely tolerate his sons, and their either total ignorance or willful blindness to the scope of the approaching doom pushes him over the edge. As he drives up the valley his family keeps urging him to stop to take a rest break at a gas station. Throughout the entire ride the whole family has been arguing about what is to come next. Jimmon of course thinks that nothing will survive, save for him and those who band together with him. "The docile mass perished, the headstrong (but intelligent) individual will survive." Jimmon's wife wants to learn where all the other cars are going and group together with them for safety. She hopes to find her old boyfriend and his family and huddle for safety and comfort, which the emasculates Jimmon. Finally he relents and stops at a gas station. After being gouged by the proprietor and paying the exorbitant bill at his wife's urging, Jimmon gives her all the money in his wallet and allows her to use the pay phone to try to call her friends. He urges her to take the boys with her, and tells her he will be along in a moment. While they are in the station, and with his daughter in the back seat, he escapes and leaves the rest of his family to their fate.
Lot's Daughter picks up several years later. Jimmon has taken his daughter as a wife and they together have a son. In the intervening years of living at the survival camp near the ocean the family has run out of all of its supplies, which were never adequate in the first place. The camp has gone to hell as Jimmon has aged and learned that he was inadequate to the survivalist lifestyle, and all the game and cattle in the nearby hills have long been used up and eaten. Jimmon's radio has been without power for years, but before it died they learned that pretty much the rest of civilization went up in flames as bomb after bomb was dropped on different cities. They have not seen anybody else since making camp, and Jimmon's wife/daughter is desperate to learn the fate of humanity. Evidence of Jimmon's failure as a man, as a father, as a husband, and as a savior is evident everywhere. The camp is in disarray, the family wears improperly tanned hides, there is virtually nothing to eat, the boy is a malnourished idiot and Jimmon has yet another toothache. Jimmon is full of false promise, and keeps vowing to himself to fix the camp's problems and right all his wrongs, though he still has not come to terms with the horrible decision he made to abandon most of his family on the eve of destruction. He is also tortured by paranoia, and refuses to allow his daughter to try to make contact with anyone else who may be out there. He still teases himself with notions of superiority, and thinks that he is the wisest of those who are left. "A smart man hides from savages until the savages kill each other off, or until he has some means of subduing them."
Jimmon is chased out of camp by his daughter to go fishing with his son, and while crossing the road to the ocean notices some new human looking footprints in the sand that has covered everything in the intervening years. When he returns to camp, he finds that his daughter has abandoned him and their son to go with whomever discovered the camp.
