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Re: Internet researching: First target of Attack
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:50 pm
by _Everybody Wang Chung
sock puppet wrote:He said looking on the internet. He did not trim that back to just MDD. And what is the measuring stick for "the best" books, information and sources? Those that the COB issues. But remember, you're not in a cult, even if it looks, walks and sounds like a cult.
The Church certainly would be different today if the internet didn't exist.
Church growth/convert baptisms would be much different. And, the recent numerous attempts at being more open and honest would probably not have been made.
It speaks volumes that an organization would spend so much time discouraging its members from researching issues on the internet. It still shows the leadership is fearful and concerned about its members learning from outside sources. Hopefully, this will change as the Church matures and becomes less insecure in its claims.
I'm just glad the Church is starting to slowly turn the ship in the direction of more openness and honesty. It gives members like me hope.
Better late than never.
Re: Internet researching: First target of Attack
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:53 pm
by _cwald
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
I'm just glad the Church is starting to slowly turn the ship in the direction of more openness and honesty. It gives members like me hope.
Better late than never.
Sure, but what choice did they really have? They aren't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts and simply because it is the right thing to do.
Re: Internet researching: First target of Attack
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:41 pm
by _SuperDell
ldsfaqs wrote:Boring.....
Context is everything. When are you anti-mormons going to learn that.
I won't get into the talk, but LDS leaders have also told us to get involved online, to not allow "slam dunks".
In other words, the counsel is to be "wise" in what we study, to strive to study out of the best books, information and sources.
Basically to be wise, and understand the "quality" i.e. the lack thereof of some things, such as this forum, which is why I read an entire book around once every two weeks, and delve into ALL news sources so I can know what's really true, good, lovely, and of good report.
Just one book?
All news sources? How 'bout those Panamanian News Anchors...
Re: Internet researching: First target of Attack
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:15 pm
by _maklelan
sock puppet wrote:My comment is chock full of more insight and understanding than the pablum that Uchtdorf served up with the classical, FP/12 condescension.
No, not really. It's primarily pejorative out-group identity markers and understandings that you're reflecting.
Re: Internet researching: First target of Attack
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:17 pm
by _sock puppet
maklelan wrote:sock puppet wrote:My comment is chock full of more insight and understanding than the pablum that Uchtdorf served up with the classical, FP/12 condescension.
No, not really. It's primarily pejorative out-group identity markers and understandings that you're reflecting.
Yep, really. But if you enjoy 10 hours this weekend of being talked down to like a 4th grader, I wonder what your intellect will be doing, or rather, where it will be wondering.
Re: Internet researching: First target of Attack
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:20 pm
by _maklelan
sock puppet wrote:Yep, really. But if you enjoy 10 hours this weekend of being talked down to like a 4th grader, I wonder what your intellect will be doing, or rather, where it will be wondering.
No, not really, and actually Church talks and publications are oriented to an 8th-grade reading level.
Re: Internet researching: First target of Attack
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:21 pm
by _sock puppet
maklelan wrote:sock puppet wrote:Yep, really. But if you enjoy 10 hours this weekend of being talked down to like a 4th grader, I wonder what your intellect will be doing, or rather, where it will be wondering.
No, not really, and actually Church talks and publications are oriented to an 8th-grade reading level.
I guess the 8th grade in Utah ain't quite up to snuff. But, by your posting, you've answered my curiosity about where your intellect is wondering during the BoreFest.
Re: Internet researching: First target of Attack
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:25 pm
by _maklelan
sock puppet wrote:I guess the 8th grade in Utah ain't quite up to snuff.
No, it's so their messages can be understood by a greater cross-section of Church membership around the world. Certainly we can mock and belittle that administrative decision if we want, but at least understand the motivation instead of just imagining the one that makes your polemicizing the easiest.
sock puppet wrote:But, by your posting, you've answered my curiosity about where your intellect is wondering during the BoreFest.
Relevance?
Re: Internet researching: First target of Attack
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:35 pm
by _sock puppet
maklelan wrote:sock puppet wrote:I guess the 8th grade in Utah ain't quite up to snuff.
No, it's so their messages can be understood by a greater cross-section of Church membership around the world. Certainly we can mock and belittle that administrative decision if we want, but at least understand the motivation instead of just imagining the one that makes your polemicizing the easiest.
sock puppet wrote:But, by your posting, you've answered my curiosity about where your intellect is wondering during the BoreFest.
Relevance?
Relevant to the utter lack of value that the GC is to those capable of thinking--for themselves.
Re: Internet researching: First target of Attack
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:42 pm
by _maklelan
sock puppet wrote:Relevant to the utter lack of value that the GC is to those capable of thinking--for themselves.
Who said there was no value? I'm watching conference, and there are good insights to get out of it. It doesn't have to be an academic symposium to be of value. There are things I disagree with, but there are also things I like. I am a member of this community and I actively participate in it. There's absolutely nothing about that that is undermined by the capacity to think for oneself.