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maklelan wrote:
sock puppet wrote:But doesn't it all stem from the word and those that would be looking for the term's use on the net?


It stems from wanting to protect those domains from being manipulated by people who would take advantage of people looking for the term on the net.
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sock puppet wrote:It stems from wanting to protect those domains from being manipulated by people who would take advantage of people looking for the term on the net.


So you're trying to suggest what? That because the word is a factor at all, it's more likely that he's trying to protect his word rather than protect those domains from manipulation by people wishing to cause harm, which requires insisting that he lied about what he was doing? How do you go from throwing your hands up and insisting it is nonsensical to say he's protecting web domains to saying that his true intentions are revealed in the fact that the term is a factor? You cannot honestly think that this rickety rationalization you're trying to piece together is going to fool anyone.
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maklelan wrote:
sock puppet wrote:It stems from wanting to protect those domains from being manipulated by people who would take advantage of people looking for the term on the net.


So you're trying to suggest what? That because the word is a factor at all, it's more likely that he's trying to protect his word rather than protect those domains from manipulation by people wishing to cause harm, which requires insisting that he lied about what he was doing? How do you go from throwing your hands up and insisting it is nonsensical to say he's protecting web domains to saying that his true intentions are revealed in the fact that the term is a factor? You cannot honestly think that this rickety rationalization you're trying to piece together is going to fool anyone.

If not for the word, he would not have been worried about the urls. Buying the urls was to protect the word. The urls are just a tool. The word is what he was protecting.
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sock puppet wrote:If not for the word, he would not have been worried about the urls.


Yes, and if not for people who squat on domain names to take advantage of popular concepts and people, there would be no need to worry about the URLs.

sock puppet wrote:Buying the urls was to protect the word.


Here's another example of you turning an assumption into a fact. You have to insist he was lying about what he said, you have to reject by far the most parsimonious explanation (which up until 30 minutes ago you didn't appear to even understand as a possibility), and you have to assert motivations that are evidenced in anything whatsoever expect this absolutely laughable notion that because the word is a factor at all, the word is the proximate and fundamental cause.

sock puppet wrote:The urls are just a tool. The word is what he was protecting.


How is he protecting a word? From what? Is someone going to steal the word? Will he no longer be able to use it?

I thought apologists were the ones who had to appeal to the most asinine mental gymnastics. This is just monstrously stupid, but because it serves your prejudices, it's fact and several others here will accept it as such. I cannot fathom a more idiotic rationalization for your interpretation of his words. Absolutely laughable.
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For the record, Durrant only claimed not to have invented the term after the event.

From his post apocalypse apology #ponderize...
Although we didn't invent the term, as far as we know our use of it is unique.

https://kutv.com/news/local/lds-church- ... se-website

As far as when he first introduced the term in his Conference talk...
My second invitation is quite different from and much more important than the first. It is this: I invite you to “ponderize”3 one verse of scripture each week. The word ponderize is not found in the dictionary, but it has found a place in my heart. So what does it mean to ponderize? I like to say it’s a combination of 80 percent extended pondering and 20 percent memorization.

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/ ... _62durrant

Note footnote 3 reads:
3. I use meditizar in Spanish, which is a combination of meditar (to ponder) and memorizar (to memorize).

Interestingly the #meditizar is also sprinkled through the Twittersphere, and Facebook...
https://www.Facebook.com/Meditizar-Devi ... =page_info

Also note: The word 'ponderize' IS found in the dictionary.
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
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I have a question wrote:For the record, Durrant only claimed not to have invented the term after the event.

From his post apocalypse apology #ponderize...
Although we didn't invent the term, as far as we know our use of it is unique.

https://kutv.com/news/local/lds-church- ... se-website

As far as when he first introduced the term in his Conference talk...
My second invitation is quite different from and much more important than the first. It is this: I invite you to “ponderize”3 one verse of scripture each week. The word ponderize is not found in the dictionary, but it has found a place in my heart. So what does it mean to ponderize? I like to say it’s a combination of 80 percent extended pondering and 20 percent memorization.

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/ ... _62durrant

Note footnote 3 reads:
3. I use meditizar in Spanish, which is a combination of meditar (to ponder) and memorizar (to memorize).

Interestingly the #meditizar is also sprinkled through the Twittersphere, and Facebook...
https://www.Facebook.com/Meditizar-Devi ... =page_info

Also note: The word 'ponderize' IS found in the dictionary.


So this all means . . . he really does think he invented the term?

And there is no "THE dictionary." There are dictionaries. Which dictionary are you looking in and which dictionary did he look in?
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maklelan wrote:

So this all means . . . he really does think he invented the term?

And there is no "THE dictionary." There are dictionaries. Which dictionary are you looking in and which dictionary did he look in?


This thread is turning into something from the Watergate hearings. What and when did he know it? And we know how that turned out.
I'm coming to the conclusion that this is an ultimately beneficial incident. It is forcing some long overdue examination of Mormon mutual exploitation. I see it as belonging with the rest of the Mormon subculture niche market. The Mormon preppers and MLMs and creative investors show the way. :wink:
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Hey Mak! :smile:

Maksutov wrote:This thread is turning into something from the Watergate hearings.


I don't believe that this thread is turning into anything - it has - pages ago - already turned into one of the most bizarre discussions I have ever read on the MDB.

Of all the hills to do battle on - why this one?
And why is there such an enormous effort being extended to win this hill............ an ant hill?

Something doesn't fit here?

I don't get it.

Odd!

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I have a question wrote:Here's how Wiki summarise it:

At the church's October 2015 general conference, Durrant gave a sermon introducing the word "ponderize." He described it as a combination of memorizing and pondering a verse of scripture. He invited listeners to take up the practice. The next day it was discovered that he and his son had recently registered several web site domains for the word. Within a few hours of the sermon, his son launched a web site selling "ponderize" merchandise. Some church members felt that this rendered Durrant's sermon to be nothing more than an infomercial. A backlash on social media led to the web site being removed. Durrant later issued an apology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devin_Durrant

I think this will end his rise up the ranks of the Church hierarchy.


That was his intent. Speaking in Conference is scary, and he found he didn't like being a GA. It was all an elaborate plan to make sure they never invited him to speak at conference again and not give him anymore callings in the church, except maybe nursery.
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Given how well-heeled the Brethren of the 21st Century are, do they fail to differentiate religion and business?
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