Monetize ponderize

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Sethbag wrote:Thanks for the response. I'm curious about it, though. Evidently Brother Durrant thought his idea was just fine during the weeks leading up to conference. I mean, he surely meant to use the word the way he did in his talk, he registered some domain names himself and has admitted he at least knew that his son was setting up the site to sell merchanise based on it, and the timing of the sites going live corresponds perfectly with the conference talk, so it was a coordinated effort, all of which Brother Durrant was fine with.

So, between the days and weeks when he thought this was a fine, and his coming to believe that the site not only should be taken down, but that he should appear to be apologizing for it, what do you think made him change his mind? Further internal reflection?


I know this question is for Makelan, but in my humble opinion, and this is just my opinion, if there was no media backlash over this, Durrant's son would still be selling T-Shirts and wristbands today, and none of the profits would be going to the missionary fund. But that's just me. Maybe Durrant and/or his son decided to shut down the site of their own accord.
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lostindc wrote:
maklelan wrote:And most of the commentators here are fine with calling him a ****head. Imagine that, people invested in the power structures on each side of an imaginary line are asserting the superiority of their end of that power structure. Tale as old as time, and yet everybody still treats it like an insight of some kind.


What is the count on the number of posters in this thread? How many called Durrant a ****head in this thread?

You continue to paint the posters of MD as some sort of pack of wolves.

At this point, I don't think any involved Durrants are idiots, just that that the monetization of ponderization is a ****head thing to do.

As Mayan pointed out, this is hardly a new phenomenon in the Church, but I think Mayan did not emphasize how blatantly dumb this particular venture was.


Here is a serious problem I have with mak's commentary here, his bias is overwhelming and obnoxious. I did not call Durrant a shithead, and I did not observe most posters on this thread calling him a shithead. Mak's credibility continues to be eroded.

One last point, I see here a typical type of grad student, thrilled with his brand new level of knowledge, spewing his specialized terminology and discipline-oriented concepts all over, insulting those who are not familiar with the vocabulary of his particular area, and becoming offended if anyone disagrees with him in the slightest.

I usually try to encourage my students and support their new level of knowledge, but unfortunately there comes a time when some students need to be quietly taken to the side, and have the concepts of professionalism and mannered discussion explained to them.

On the other hand, Mak's an adult, so he has every right to post under his own name anything he would like to, I am certainly not suggesting otherwise.

It certainly makes for entertaining reading!
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lostindc wrote:What is the count on the number of posters in this thread? How many called Durrant a shithead in this thread?


I've seen zero people express any concern with it, and one poster above suggests it deserves a mic drop.

lostindc wrote:You continue to paint the posters of MD as some sort of pack of wolves.


No, just people holding dogmatically to terrible stereotypes.

lostindc wrote:At this point, I don't think any involved Durrants are idiots, just that that the monetization of ponderization is a shithead thing to do.

As Mayan pointed out, this is hardly a new phenomenon in the Church, but I think Mayan did not emphasize how blatantly dumb this particular venture was.
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Sethbag wrote:Thanks for the response. I'm curious about it, though. Evidently Brother Durrant thought his idea was just fine during the weeks leading up to conference. I mean, he surely meant to use the word the way he did in his talk, he registered some domain names himself and has admitted he at least knew that his son was setting up the site to sell merchanise based on it, and the timing of the sites going live corresponds perfectly with the conference talk, so it was a coordinated effort, all of which Brother Durrant was fine with.

So, between the days and weeks when he thought this was a fine idea, and his coming to believe that the site not only should be taken down, but that he should appear to be apologizing for it, what do you think made him change his mind? Further internal reflection?


No, the public reaction.
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DarkHelmet wrote:I know this question is for Makelan, but in my humble opinion, and this is just my opinion, if there was no media backlash over this, Durrant's son would still be selling T-Shirts and wristbands today, and none of the profits would be going to the missionary fund. But that's just me.


I would agree with you.
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I have to go with Dark Helmet and Ms. Jack here. Making money, or helping a relative make the money, meh. A lot of TBMs want to spend their money on religious stuff but partnering with Deseret Book or something less obvious would have been prudent. What is unforgivable is the hubris and total lack of self-awareness it takes to believe so strongly one has coined the next internet craze that you register a domain in advance of your talk whether to grease the wheels, or far worse, to defend against meme pirates. Ponderize. LOL! What a stupid word! Who in their right mind would think it would be the next global sensation?

Thanks to the negative publicity, the word may have a chance. It's got the requisite attention. A ponderize t-shirt could make money for being so lame, or rise to trendy-uncool, like a "loser" t-shirt or something.
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Gadianton wrote:I have to go with Dark Helmet and Ms. Jack here. Making money, or helping a relative make the money, meh. A lot of TBMs want to spend their money on religious stuff but partnering with Deseret Book or something less obvious would have been prudent. What is unforgivable is the hubris and total lack of self-awareness it takes to believe so strongly one has coined the next internet craze that you register a domain in advance of your talk....


And even more dumb hubris, open the site immediately after the talk, on a Sunday no less!
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Hey Gad! :smile:

Gadianton wrote: Ponderize. LOL! What a stupid word!



:lol:


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on a Sunday no less!


ouch -- I didn't think about that.
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Gadianton wrote:Ponderize. LOL! What a stupid word! Who in their right mind would think it would be the next global sensation?


People who use the word "synergize."
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