John Dehlin: A Spy Story

Post by **_Kishkumen** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:36 am

He was disfellowshipped. The same phrase is used of ex-communicated elders.

Post by **_Maksutov** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:03 am

Kishkumen wrote:He was disfellowshipped. The same phrase is used of ex-communicated elders.

The brother that worked for Charlie Wilson was?

Post by **_sock puppet** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:18 am

Kishkumen wrote:
Jesse Pinkman wrote:OMG! You saw this happen? I had never heard of that specific question being asked! How horrible!

Jesse, this was simply part of the procedure in my mission. I am ashamed to say that I was one of the young missionaries who was asking that question.

Me too.

Post by **_Kishkumen** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:28 am

Maksutov wrote:
Kishkumen wrote:He was disfellowshipped. The same phrase is used of ex-communicated elders.

The brother that worked for Charlie Wilson was?

No, I was responding to a question about the missionary expression: going home with his garments in a box.

The arms trafficker was an active member. He was my seminary teacher for a while.

Post by **_cafe crema** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:59 am

Mayan Elephant wrote:
Kishkumen wrote:One of the worst invasions was using young missionaries to ask women whether they had ever had an abortion in a baptismal interview. The many layers of wrongness there are staggering to contemplate.

the wrongness on that is layered. we agree on that.

not sure what the process was in your mission, but if the answer was yes - then it started moving up up up the ladder. DL calls the ZL, ZL calls the office, office calls the MP, MP calls back down to the DL or ZL. we streamlined a bit in our mission, but the process was certainly one that did not include any amount of confidentiality.

if i recall, there were 5 big questions to ask. abortion, felony/crime, gay, something about divorces/marriages/kids, and something else. i can't remember it all.

And over on the MD&D board the Mormons are going on about how the LDS church has a "seal of the confessional" the same as the Catholic church so that what you confess is never told to anyone else.

Post by **_Lemmie** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:55 am

Kishkumen wrote:He was disfellowshipped. The same phrase is used of ex-communicated elders.

Thank you for the information.

Post by **_Kishkumen** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:21 pm

Kishkumen wrote:We even had a guy who funneled arms for Charlie Wilson.

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