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_SuperDell
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Try this Monson & Co...

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Try telling a kid who has just turned 8, or is about to and has been preparing for Baptism for months. Years of Primary participation. Friends being baptized. All the cultural and ceremonial Mormon hoopla leading up to baptism for the youngster.
Then, the day this child turns 8 years of age YOU have to explain to them that because of the lifestyle of parents Legally and Lawfully married - this 8 year old can't be baptized. Can't be confirmed. Can't 'receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost'.

All the friends get to be part of the church - but not this child.

Now go a bit further and explain to this childs grandfather why he can't baptize his own grandchild - even after all has been set up beforehand and he as well as extended family have purchased airline tickets and planned vacation/travel time to go to the childs home ward and perform the baptism.

Any of "the Brethren" have the balls to face the kids or their families head on over this?

I doubt it.

A good friend is in this specific situation. Monson & Co are lucky they are nowhere near his ranchland. His wife is resigning but he can't quite bring himself to do so - yet.

Yep, your new "policy" sure does help the kids and assures 'families are forever'.
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_Servant
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SuperDell wrote:Try telling a kid who has just turned 8, or is about to and has been preparing for Baptism for months. Years of Primary participation. Friends being baptized. All the cultural and ceremonial Mormon hoopla leading up to baptism for the youngster.
Then, the day this child turns 8 years of age YOU have to explain to them that because of the lifestyle of parents Legally and Lawfully married - this 8 year old can't be baptized. Can't be confirmed. Can't 'receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost'.

All the friends get to be part of the church - but not this child.

Now go a bit further and explain to this childs grandfather why he can't baptize his own grandchild - even after all has been set up beforehand and he as well as extended family have purchased airline tickets and planned vacation/travel time to go to the childs home ward and perform the baptism.

Any of "the Brethren" have the balls to face the kids or their families head on over this?

I doubt it.

A good friend is in this specific situation. Monson & Co are lucky they are nowhere near his ranchland. His wife is resigning but he can't quite bring himself to do so - yet.

Yep, your new "policy" sure does help the kids and assures 'families are forever'.


People should get out of a cult which is so prejudiced that it visits the sins of the parents upon the children. Look for a class action suit. Hope the Mormons lose their tax exempt status over this.
_Ceeboo
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Hi Servant! :smile:

It's a pleasure to have a real authentic Christian among us.

Servant wrote: Hope the Mormons lose their tax exempt status over this.


I wanted to point out (in case it may be helpful to you on some level) that "Mormons" do not have tax exempt status.

Mormons are people (human beings).

The LDS church (Mormonism) has tax exempt status - just like many many other churches and organizations do.

I hope that was of some help.

Peace,
Ceeboo
_Sammy Jankins
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Post by _Sammy Jankins »

There is a similiar sentiment shared here:

Faith promoting rumor.

What I have in mind is a role-playing video. Perhaps you could demonstrate how you would explain to a close friend that her youngest can’t be baptized because the child’s father is now co-habitating with another male? Or that her pre-teen son, who was looking forward to being ordained, must now forego the ordinance and sit with his mother as his peers prepare, pass, and bless the sacrament? Finally, please do not neglect the situation in which a sister might have remarried, to a gentleman with his own children, creating a situation in which some of the children will enjoy a traditional spiritual maturation while others will lack the relationship with God that we teach comes only through the companionship of the Spirit.
As you make these videos, please remember that for us this is not a one-and-done experience. We will not speak once, by appointment only, with these sisters, nor will we be able to pat them on the hand, offer a Kleenex, and usher them out of the Church Office Building. We cannot fulfill our leadership obligations by making a reference to the situation in the next Women’s Broadcast. We will live, love and serve with these sisters over our entire lives, indeed, as their sisters in Christ we will surely and gladly suffer daily with them. Therefore, the spiritual and intellectual superficiality of most LDS women’s events must be avoided in favor of an engagement that matches the gravity of the issues – the spiritual welfare of faithful LDS families, women and their children, to which we have all committed ourselves.
I look forward to hearing your voices and benefiting from the wisdom of your insights as you show us how to make the implementation of this policy the act of Christ-like love we all wish it to be. Thanks in advance,
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