DarkHelmet wrote:To be fair, that's the cost of having an athletic department. University athletics brings in money for schools. BYU is just trying to keep up with the big boys. Investing in facilities might sell a few more season tickets and helps attract recruits.
WWJD????
Last I checked the story, Jesus did not play any sports.
Well...
Red flags look normal when you're wearing rose colored glasses.
I don't see a problem with this at all but I do wonder if sports revenues from BYU games are taxed.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
DarkHelmet wrote:To be fair, that's the cost of having an athletic department. University athletics brings in money for schools. BYU is just trying to keep up with the big boys. Investing in facilities might sell a few more season tickets and helps attract recruits.
I agree that this is just part of having an athletics program, but the commonly accepted idea that athletics programs "bring in money for schools" is just not correct (see here, for example). It's really the other way around: athletics programs drain money out of schools.
"As to any slivers of light or any particles of darkness of the past, we forget about them."
As much as I enjoy bashing the Saccharine Hypocrites we don't have enough iformation on this. Am more familiar with a Texas High School with a Six Million Dollar scoreboard with all the bells and whistles. Donated money specifically to build it. Not taxpayer money. If no new scoreboard, no donation.
Maybe BYU faced this type of donation? Wasn't on a tithing slip that gives them the right to use it for anything they want?
Either way - BYU sucks and its administration sucks the most.
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SuperDell wrote:As much as I enjoy bashing the Saccharine Hypocrites we don't have enough iformation on this. Am more familiar with a Texas High School with a Six Million Dollar scoreboard with all the bells and whistles. Donated money specifically to build it. Not taxpayer money. If no new scoreboard, no donation.
Maybe BYU faced this type of donation? Wasn't on a tithing slip that gives them the right to use it for anything they want?
Either way - BYU sucks and its administration sucks the most.
None of those donors claimed a tax deduction for those contributions? That lost revenue is part of the "tax expenditure budget".
It's useless complaining about such costs because this is not the heart of the dilemma. The dilemma is not whether Jesus plays basketball. It is how far should a church get involved in civic duties. Isn't it?
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
zeezrom wrote:It's useless complaining about such costs because this is not the heart of the dilemma. The dilemma is not whether Jesus plays basketball. It is how far should a church get involved in civic duties. Isn't it?
I might recast the problem: how should the Church be using its university? Athletics (or at least certain parts of athletics) command an obscene amount of attention there.
BYU is a complicated place. Its administrators had grand dreams for its research potential, but they have also been religious fundamentalists consistently; it makes a pretty good education embarrassingly affordable by the standards of comparable institutions, but of course that's partly how the Church lures young people in to its religious fundamentalism; BYU's athletics program actually promotes what there is of diversity among the student population at BYU, but on the other hand the university doesn't do much more to expand that diversity and the athletics becomes a tool to foster a common identity among the faithful of the Mormon heartland and thus ends up being a vehicle for cementing loyalty to the Church.
"As to any slivers of light or any particles of darkness of the past, we forget about them."
