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Quasimodo wrote:

grindael wrote:Why did Smith have sex with two young sisters, claim they were his WIVES, and then shake their hands, tell them it was all over and have nothing to do with them ever again a few months after he claimed to have "married" them? This is taking his marriages seriously?

Wow! I didn't know that. Every day is a learning experience on this board.

This sounds like a good blog topic for you. May I suggest the title "Licked Cupcakes"?

It was the Partridge sisters. Here is Emily's account:

When we went in Joseph was there, his countenance was the perfect picture of despair. I cannot remember all that passed at that time but [but] she insisted that we should promise to break our covenants, that we had made before God. Joseph asked her if we made her the promises she required, if she would cease to trouble us, and not persist in our marrying someone else. She made the promise. Joseph came to us and shook hands with us and the understanding was that all was ended between us. I for one meant to keep the promise I was forced to make.

Fall of 1843. Both went to live with other "wives" of Joseph Smith. And Emma supposedly agreed to their "marriage" and participated in the ceremony! PRE-POSTEROUS!

Quasimodo wrote:

grindael wrote:Why did Smith have sex with two young sisters, claim they were his WIVES, and then shake their hands, tell them it was all over and have nothing to do with them ever again a few months after he claimed to have "married" them? This is taking his marriages seriously?

Wow! I didn't know that. Every day is a learning experience on this board.

This sounds like a good blog topic for you. May I suggest the title "Licked Cupcakes"?

Whoa.

Sometimes Mormon history is like a string of Jerry Springer episodes.

Maksutov wrote:

Quasimodo wrote:
Wow! I didn't know that. Every day is a learning experience on this board.

This sounds like a good blog topic for you. May I suggest the title "Licked Cupcakes"?

Whoa.

Sometimes Mormon history is like a string of Jerry Springer episodes.

Emma and Flora Woodworth! Smith "marries" the 16 year old girl behind his legitimate wife's back, and somehow Emma finds out (I have speculated that this may be from two letters that Emma intercepted of Eliza Snow's to Joseph just days before this), and goes to her house, spies her with a watch that she obviously believed her husband gave the girl, and demands it, and in some accounts stomps it underfoot. Emma storms off, and Joseph gets her home (Emma "abusing" him all the way) and has to use "harsh measures" to shut her up. Flora, panicked, runs off with Carlos Gove (26 years old) to Carthage and marries him ON THAT SAME DAY (August 23, 1843). Smith visits with Flora's mother Phoebe (another of Smith's spiritual wives) and then with Flora, but to no avail, she has abandoned Smith. Since Smith never brought her up on any charges of adultery or bigamy, he most likely shook her hand too and let her go. (Mike Quinn thinks he spent the day he was with Flora by himself at Clayton's house banging her).

Flora and Carols Gove (who was a gunsmith, crack marksman and worked for the Indian Affairs Dept. of the Government) lived in Iowa and she has a son with Gove, (Charles) but dies (perhaps in childbirth?) in 1851. Gove becomes a rather famous fellow in Denver, Colorado, where he moved in 1860. Flora was never sealed to Joseph in a second ceremony as most of Smith's wives were in the Nauvoo Temple after his death.

Quasimodo wrote:

grindael wrote:Why did Smith have sex with two young sisters, claim they were his WIVES, and then shake their hands, tell them it was all over and have nothing to do with them ever again a few months after he claimed to have "married" them? This is taking his marriages seriously?

Wow! I didn't know that. Every day is a learning experience on this board.

This sounds like a good blog topic for you. May I suggest the title "Licked Cupcakes"?

grindael wrote:It was the Partridge sisters. Here is Emily's account:

When we went in Joseph was there, his countenance was the perfect picture of despair. I cannot remember all that passed at that time but [but] she insisted that we should promise to break our covenants, that we had made before God. Joseph asked her if we made her the promises she required, if she would cease to trouble us, and not persist in our marrying someone else. She made the promise. Joseph came to us and shook hands with us and the understanding was that all was ended between us. I for one meant to keep the promise I was forced to make.

Fall of 1843. Both went to live with other "wives" of Joseph Smith. And Emma supposedly agreed to their "marriage" and participated in the ceremony! PRE-POSTEROUS!

At a Motley Crue concert in Vegas once, I saw Vince Neal get 'married' by Nikki Sixx to a slightly clad pole dancer. Now, that was no more legal than JSJr's "marriages" after Emma. So, if Vince Neal had sex with that pole dancer, and then nothing more to do with her than shake her hand and ignore her, was he married to her in a Mormon sense and divorced from her in a Mormon sense?

PREPOSTEROUS is right. You got to be so invested deeply into the Mormon dung pile as not to be able to open your eyes see, realize and declare polygamy as just the inside Mormon club's excuse for adultery and wife swapping.

If God withholds evidence so we can have faith (gold plates) why did the church feel compelled to go God one better, and withhold even more evidence? (seerstones, church records, multiple accounts of the first vision, taking lectures on faith out of the D&C............

deacon blues wrote:If God withholds evidence so we can have faith (gold plates) why did the church feel compelled to go God one better, and withhold even more evidence? (seerstones, church records, multiple accounts of the first vision, taking lectures on faith out of the D&C............

So we could have even more faith?

What's new in terms of continuing revelation?

Jersey Girl wrote:What's new in terms of continuing revelation?

They continue to reveal that there's no problem, the church is still true, and all the critics just don't have their facts straight. That came straight from Elohim, who regularly appears to them in the upper room of the SLC temple to make sure they're still on board.

Jersey Girl wrote:What's new in terms of continuing revelation?

Dunno. Check the Newsroom.

What's the difference between policy and revelation?