Age of Accountabilith for children of legally married gays?

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Age of Accountabilith for children of legally married gays?

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The oft quoted Age of Accountabiliy is 8 years, the baptismal age for kids into LDS membership. Death before this age supposedly gets them a free pass to the Celestial Kingdom.

With the new Revelation specifically telling one and all that children of legally wedded gay parents must wait until they are 18 years of age and can make their own decisions (as well as disavow the lifestyle/marriage of their parents) does this mean these kids now have an extra ten years added before they reach the 'age of accountability'?
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Re: Age of Accountabilith for children of legally married ga

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Doctrine and Covenants 29 wrote:33 Speaking unto you that you may naturally understand; but unto myself my works have no end, neither beginning; but it is given unto you that ye may understand, because ye have asked it of me and are agreed.

34 Wherefore, verily I say unto you that all things unto me are spiritual, and not at any time have I given unto you a law which was temporal; neither any man, nor the children of men; neither Adam, your father, whom I created.


The Age of Accountability is the same for all; God's laws are spiritual, and as such, like him forever unchanging.

There are three options here. Tell gay parents to stop being gay. Teach the children of gay parents to lie and inform the church that they have never had sex, but are rather live-in-chums, or encourage gay parents to smother their children before 8. They're already committing one damnable sin, what's another one on the pile?
Mormon 9:9 For do we not read that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and in him there is no variableness neither shadow of changing

D&C 29:34 Wherefore, verily I say unto you that all things unto me are spiritual, and not at any time have I given you a law which was temporal[...]
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Re: Age of Accountabilith for children of legally married ga

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SuperDell wrote:... a free pass to the Celestial Kingdom...


I find this idea more deplorable than many others taught in the church. What works and experiences have they performed to receive such an honour, none, for they are unnacountable, and yet, my works and experiences aren't
Mormon 9:9 For do we not read that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and in him there is no variableness neither shadow of changing

D&C 29:34 Wherefore, verily I say unto you that all things unto me are spiritual, and not at any time have I given you a law which was temporal[...]
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Re: Age of Accountabilith for children of legally married ga

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SuperDell wrote:The oft quoted Age of Accountabiliy is 8 years, the baptismal age for kids into LDS membership. Death before this age supposedly gets them a free pass to the Celestial Kingdom.

With the new Revelation specifically telling one and all that children of legally wedded gay parents must wait until they are 18 years of age and can make their own decisions (as well as disavow the lifestyle/marriage of their parents) does this mean these kids now have an extra ten years added before they reach the 'age of accountability'?


According to Church doctrine....
People who aren't members of the Church are less accountable than those who are.
For instance, a 12 year old member who drinks coffee is accountable for breaking the word of wisdom.
A 12 year old non member can drink coffee and not be held accountable for breaking the word of wisdom.

Anyone who doesn't join the Church in this life is in a better position when they die, eternally speaking, than someone who does join the Church but who fails to live up to the requirements.
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Re: Age of Accountabilith for children of legally married ga

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Elder Christofferson: Well, in answering or responding to your question, let me say I speak not only as an apostle in the Church, but as a husband, as a father and as a grandfather. And like others in those more enduring callings, I have a sense of compassion and sympathy and tender feelings that they do. So this policy originates out of that compassion. It originates from a desire to protect children in their innocence and in their minority years. When, for example, there is the formal blessing and naming of a child in the Church, which happens when a child has parents who are members of the Church, it triggers a lot of things. First, a membership record for them. It triggers the assignment of visiting and home teachers. It triggers an expectation that they will be in Primary and the other Church organizations. And that is likely not going to be an appropriate thing in the home setting, in the family setting where they're living as children where their parents are a same-sex couple. We don't want there to be the conflicts that that would engender. We don't want the child to have to deal with issues that might arise where the parents feel one way and the expectations of the Church are very different. And so with the other ordinances on through baptism and so on, there's time for that if, when a child reaches majority, he or she feels like that's what they want and they can make an informed and conscious decision about that. Nothing is lost to them in the end if that's the direction they want to go. In the meantime, they're not placed in a position where there will be difficulties, challenges, conflicts that can injure their development in very tender years.
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