"Powers of Discernment" and the Temple

[_cognitiveharmony]

You gotta love the discernment game. Impossible to play without begging the question.

We should actually play this game. Someone picks a scripture and we all use our 'gift of discernment' to discern the actual meaning.....

[_Maksutov]

You gotta love the discernment game. Impossible to play without begging the question.

We should actually play this game. Someone picks a scripture and we all use our 'gift of discernment' to discern the actual meaning.....

The best one I ever heard for whipping up this stuff on the fly was a young man named Vernon Howell. a.k.a. David Koresh.

[_grindael]

Moses was God's PROPHET. How in the world is he then using his own "free will" to "speak the desires of men."

FRANKTALK = A little discernment equals CONFUSION.

YUP.

I can understand that this is confusing. Let me lay it out. A messenger from God (a prophet) is sent to the earth to give out a message. This message could be clear or it could be figurative. So the message is a thing of God. But along the way the people who are to receive the message may reject the message. They may prefer to believe their own desires as the truth. In the case of most prophets once they have their message rejected they are to parrot back to the men their own desires. So the message from God stops and the prophet then gives the people what they desire. The prophet gives them the desires of men. The prophet is still under the rules of God but the message has changed from God to man. It has to do with the free will of men. Men should be able to hear the truth. But if they wish to reject the truth then the prophet bends to the free will of the people. This is why the scriptures are filled with contradictions.

Take Isaiah chapter one. It has a bunch of truth in it. Very clearly written out. But who in religion takes it seriously? No one. But make up stuff about big flames in the throne in heaven and religious people lap it up. It is because they desire a heaven filled with smoke and flames.

Here is part of Chapter one.

Isa 1:10 Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.
Isa 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
Isa 1:12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
Isa 1:13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
Isa 1:14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.
Isa 1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Sodom and Gomorrah were long gone when Isaiah wrote this. This is for men acting as men in the world doing the things the natural man does. Look at what God says about the things that men do. In essence God hates: oblations, incense, new moons, sabbaths, assemblies, and appointed feast. Yet it seems the prophets are the ones who told the people to do this. It is my belief that the prophets were giving the people what they desired. People desire religion. Most of the world is stuck in religion. They see their desires in the scriptures and believe them. And when they read a section of truth they reject it. It comes down to free will. We are all free to believe the lie.

gobbledegook.

[_Philo Sofee]

More than anything else discernment allows one to sort out truth from the lie or myth.

No it doesn't. You have already admitted you don't think discernment is coming from a divine source, but from yourself. You have not given any method to know if your interpretations of these sensations and thoughts are accurate. You have no way to know you are not just making up what you like.

He doesn't have any way, but the rest of us sure do. Evolution was kind to us for giving us brains.......

[_Maksutov]

gobbledegook.