beastie wrote:What strikes me about this hour long GA talk which was full of nothing but repetitious ideas, devoid of one grain of originality, is that this guy felt self-important enough to decide that he really needed an HOUR – an HOUR – to drone on and on. The experience is representative of GAs in general. While their private lives must be different, they appear as the same stuffed suits repeating the same canned lines, boring and inconsequential to anyone’s lives and yet full of unwarranted self-importance. Really? An HOUR????
And all those poor people there with young children – what torture. It’s hard enough to sit through it as an adult, but throw some poor children in as additional victims, and it’s pure torture.
Perhaps it is looked at similar to the Catholic Mass or Orthodox Liturgy where you find a lot of repetition as well. It is the act of worship through repetition I suppose. Sunday School and other classes are intended to provide some academic instruction but the main meeting in the chapel is not, as I see it.
But I would much rather attend the Orthodox or Catholic service because at least they have stuff to look at on the walls. There is a lot more mystery in those church services.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
zeezrom wrote:Perhaps it is looked at similar to the Catholic Mass or Orthodox Liturgy where you find a lot of repetition as well. It is the act of worship through repetition I suppose. Sunday School and other classes are intended to provide some academic instruction but the main meeting in the chapel is not, as I see it.
But I would much rather attend the Orthodox or Catholic service because at least they have stuff to look at on the walls. There is a lot more mystery in those church services.
Last week my sister was telling me how much her husband was looking forward to just relaxing and watching the Super Bowl, as he had just been released as stake president. He's often told me that he finds church meetings almost unbearable, and for many years now, he's had to attend more of these meetings than anyone should humanely be required to attend. It struck me that I've never heard anyone say how much they miss having a leadership position in the church. He certainly doesn't miss it.
Perhaps it is looked at similar to the Catholic Mass or Orthodox Liturgy where you find a lot of repetition as well. It is the act of worship through repetition I suppose. Sunday School and other classes are intended to provide some academic instruction but the main meeting in the chapel is not, as I see it.
But I would much rather attend the Orthodox or Catholic service because at least they have stuff to look at on the walls. There is a lot more mystery in those church services.
Many years ago I attended a few Catholic full mass ceremonies in Latin. The first time it was amazing and mysterious. Much like listening to Gregorian chants. After that they were a little long and boring.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
zeezrom wrote:Sunday School and other classes are intended to provide some academic instruction but the main meeting in the chapel is not, as I see it.
But even the classes are as boring as sacrament meeting. They teach from the same recycled correlated manuals that have been around forever. The only time classes get interesting is when someone goes off script, but the church leaders don't like that. Stick to the manual.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
Quasimodo wrote:Many years ago I attended a few Catholic full mass ceremonies in Latin. The first time it was amazing and mysterious. Much like listening to Gregorian chants. After that they were a little long and boring.
It's funny how I used to think it was bad that Catholics would only attend church on Christmas and Easter (at least, according to my Mormon friends). Well, I bet it is the irregular attendance that actually keeps them interested in it! :)
Take heed Mormon leadership. You can learn from the heavy hitters in the big league. Stop requiring that your members attend every single week. And put some art in your chapels for Christ's sake.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
DarkHelmet wrote:But even the classes are as boring as sacrament meeting. They teach from the same recycled correlated manuals that have been around forever. The only time classes get interesting is when someone goes off script, but the church leaders don't like that. Stick to the manual.
Yes, the curriculum is a serious failing indeed.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
Quasimodo wrote:Many years ago I attended a few Catholic full mass ceremonies in Latin. The first time it was amazing and mysterious. Much like listening to Gregorian chants. After that they were a little long and boring.
It's funny how I used to think it was bad that Catholics would only attend church on Christmas and Easter (at least, according to my Mormon friends). Well, I bet it is the irregular attendance that actually keeps them interested in it! :)
Take heed Mormon leadership. You can learn from the heavy hitters in the big league. Stop requiring that your members attend every single week. And put some art in your chapels for Christ's sake.
I guess it's a personal choice. My in-laws attend Mass almost every day. They do have better art.
zeezrom wrote:It's funny how I used to think it was bad that Catholics would only attend church on Christmas and Easter (at least, according to my Mormon friends). Well, I bet it is the irregular attendance that actually keeps them interested in it! :)
Take heed Mormon leadership. You can learn from the heavy hitters in the big league. Stop requiring that your members attend every single week. And put some art in your chapels for Christ's sake.
I guess it's a personal choice. My in-laws attend Mass almost every day. They do have better art.
My wife's grandmother did the same thing. After passing 90 and recovering from a broken hip, she would walk uphill for two blocks to attend church at the Ventura Mission every day.
I used to think "Are there no soap operas? Are there no game shows?" I found it odd, but I had to admire her devotion. She was a great lady and I never brought up the subject of religion with her nor she with me.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
Perhaps it is looked at similar to the Catholic Mass or Orthodox Liturgy where you find a lot of repetition as well. It is the act of worship through repetition I suppose. Sunday School and other classes are intended to provide some academic instruction but the main meeting in the chapel is not, as I see it.
But I would much rather attend the Orthodox or Catholic service because at least they have stuff to look at on the walls. There is a lot more mystery in those church services.
Many years ago I attended a few Catholic full mass ceremonies in Latin. The first time it was amazing and mysterious. Much like listening to Gregorian chants. After that they were a little long and boring.
The devout get up early in the morning and go to said Low Mass, which is nearly always in the local language. It's short, and (if you believe in it) a great start to the day.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
If you attend one meeting per decade do you class as active these days?
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
