Mickelson Case: GA coverup cont.,
Re: Mickelson Case: GA coverup cont.,
I really don't think Kerran understands that blackmail (and extortion) is illegal. If you have proof of misbehavior by an attorney, you present it to the presiding authority (either the court or DA). You don't proudly admit that you committed a crime and incriminate yourself by stating you blackmailed and extorted an attorney. Since he's publicly admitted committing a crime, I think the DA should investigate this as well.
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Re: Mickelson Case: GA coverup cont.,
Tobin wrote:I really don't think Kerran understands that blackmail (and extortion) is illegal. If you have proof of misbehavior by an attorney, you present it to the presiding authority (either the court or DA). You don't proudly admit that you committed a crime and incriminate yourself by stating you blackmailed and extorted an attorney. Since he's publicly admitted committing a crime, I think the DA should investigate this as well.
You misread what he wrote. He didn't do any of the above.
What he did was use evidence to turn the tide in his favor, and cut a deal with the other side so she wouldn't be exposed.
It won him custody of his children which is all he really wanted anyway.
That isn't blackmail. Suborning perjury was the crime his ex-wife and her attorney were complicit in engaging in. The attorney was hired by the General Authority, Mickelson, on behalf of his daughter.
He paid for it out of is own pockets. Kerran represented himself, and if you ask me he did one hell of a good job.
Even Johnnie Cochran couldn't have done better than he did on Judgment Day.
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Of course it is blackmail and extortion. The scenario is that the attorney misbehaved and suborned perjury. That is the attorney's fault. He then supposedly blackmailed and extorted the attorney for the supposed misbehavior to get what he wanted. That is a crime. He has admitted to committing a crime if what he claims is true. If the attorney had done what he claims, he should have immediately reported it to the judge. He chose to commit a crime instead.AmyJo wrote:That isn't blackmail. Suborning perjury was the crime his ex-wife and her attorney were complicit in engaging in. The attorney was hired by the General Authority, Mickelson, on behalf of his daughter.
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Re: Mickelson Case: GA coverup cont.,
AmyJo wrote:If you know anything about divorce attorneys they are the dirtiest scummiest thing since sleazy politicians.
My divorce attorney in Layton was one of the most ethical, kindest lawyers I could have hoped to hire. I was very fortunate. She won me custody of my daughters when I lived in North Carolina and jurisdiction was in Utah.
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Re: Mickelson Case: GA coverup cont.,
AmyJo wrote:Tobin wrote:I really don't think Kerran understands that blackmail (and extortion) is illegal. If you have proof of misbehavior by an attorney, you present it to the presiding authority (either the court or DA). You don't proudly admit that you committed a crime and incriminate yourself by stating you blackmailed and extorted an attorney. Since he's publicly admitted committing a crime, I think the DA should investigate this as well.
You misread what he wrote. He didn't do any of the above.
What he did was use evidence to turn the tide in his favor, and cut a deal with the other side so she wouldn't be exposed.
It won him custody of his children which is all he really wanted anyway.
That isn't blackmail. Suborning perjury was the crime his ex-wife and her attorney were complicit in engaging in. The attorney was hired by the General Authority, Mickelson, on behalf of his daughter.
He paid for it out of is own pockets. Kerran represented himself, and if you ask me he did one hell of a good job.
Even Johnnie Cochran couldn't have done better than he did on Judgment Day.
Tobin wrote:Of course it is blackmail and extortion. The scenario is that the attorney misbehaved and suborned perjury. That is the attorney's fault. He then supposedly blackmailed and extorted the attorney for the supposed misbehavior to get what he wanted. That is a crime. He has admitted to committing a crime if what he claims is true. If the attorney had done what he claims, he should have immediately reported it to the judge. He chose to commit a crime instead.
This. 100%. Amy Jo clearly doesn't understand what blackmailing entails.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Re: Mickelson Case: GA coverup cont.,
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:AmyJo wrote:You misread what he wrote. He didn't do any of the above.
What he did was use evidence to turn the tide in his favor, and cut a deal with the other side so she wouldn't be exposed.
It won him custody of his children which is all he really wanted anyway.
That isn't blackmail. Suborning perjury was the crime his ex-wife and her attorney were complicit in engaging in. The attorney was hired by the General Authority, Mickelson, on behalf of his daughter.
He paid for it out of is own pockets. Kerran represented himself, and if you ask me he did one hell of a good job.
Even Johnnie Cochran couldn't have done better than he did on Judgment Day.Tobin wrote:Of course it is blackmail and extortion. The scenario is that the attorney misbehaved and suborned perjury. That is the attorney's fault. He then supposedly blackmailed and extorted the attorney for the supposed misbehavior to get what he wanted. That is a crime. He has admitted to committing a crime if what he claims is true. If the attorney had done what he claims, he should have immediately reported it to the judge. He chose to commit a crime instead.
This. 100%. Amy Jo clearly doesn't understand what blackmailing entails.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail
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Suborning perjury was the crime. It wasn't blackmail to cut a backroom deal. Judges, lawyers do it all the time.
He just called their bluff. They were the ones willing to lie in court and commit perjury to win their case.
Calling them on it is not blackmail.
You cads are really something.
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Re: Mickelson Case: GA coverup cont.,
AmyJo wrote:Suborning perjury was the crime. It wasn't blackmail to cut a backroom deal. Judges, lawyers do it all the time.
He just called their bluff. They were the ones willing to lie in court and commit perjury to win their case.
Calling them on it is not blackmail.
You cads are really something.
He literally told his wife and her lawyer if they don't give him custody he's going to destroy the lawyer's career. They gave him custody under penalty of that threat, and he attempted to destroy the lawyer's career anyway.
That's damned blackmail, AND backstabbing.
Why are you falling on your sword for this guy?
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: Mickelson Case: GA coverup cont.,
This is an intriguing case.
Why (if that is what happened) did the attorney feel that the wife's case needed perjured testimony to make it stand up?
Why (if the father has indeed committed a crime by using his evidence of perjury to persuade the wife not to oppose custody) has no-one reported him to the police? He has. after all, publicly admitted to having performed all the acts that, according to some, constitute blackmail.
So: maybe his acts, understood in full context rather than purely on the basis of what the father has put online, did not actually constitute blackmail. The alternative is that the acts committed by the wife and attorney were so horrendous as to persuade a mother to give up custody of her children (read that again in a louder voice) rather than have them revealed. But now the father has revealed them, or at least some of them ...
by the way, DrC - "backstabbing"? That's what we call it when someone breaches the trust of an unsuspecting and innocent person by attacking them for no good reason. It's surely not a word we would use for putting pressure on a crooked lawyer who has colluded with a crooked client to attack someone who detects the crookedness, and then demands a quid pro quo for not turning the crooks in.
Why (if that is what happened) did the attorney feel that the wife's case needed perjured testimony to make it stand up?
Why (if the father has indeed committed a crime by using his evidence of perjury to persuade the wife not to oppose custody) has no-one reported him to the police? He has. after all, publicly admitted to having performed all the acts that, according to some, constitute blackmail.
So: maybe his acts, understood in full context rather than purely on the basis of what the father has put online, did not actually constitute blackmail. The alternative is that the acts committed by the wife and attorney were so horrendous as to persuade a mother to give up custody of her children (read that again in a louder voice) rather than have them revealed. But now the father has revealed them, or at least some of them ...
by the way, DrC - "backstabbing"? That's what we call it when someone breaches the trust of an unsuspecting and innocent person by attacking them for no good reason. It's surely not a word we would use for putting pressure on a crooked lawyer who has colluded with a crooked client to attack someone who detects the crookedness, and then demands a quid pro quo for not turning the crooks in.
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Re: Mickelson Case: GA coverup cont.,
Or maybe she and her attorney don't know about what he's saying now. Has anyone tried to contact them? I'm sure they'd be very interested.
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Chap wrote:by the way, DrC - "backstabbing"? That's what we call it when someone breaches the trust of an unsuspecting and innocent person by attacking them for no good reason.
Mmmm... I disagree. If you make a deal with someone, blackmail or otherwise, and you renege on it or do what you say you weren't going to do that's a backstab.
Maybe double-cross?
I don't know. This is a total crap show, and it's awesome. I hope the truth comes out eventually.
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.