Comparative Biographies of Warren Aston, Discoverer of Nahom

[_DrW]

Good morning, W!

ldsfaqs,

Perhaps your response to this IQ test type multiple choice question will help us to clear up your confusion as to the point Darth's of OP.

Q. Which one of the following interests listed in the biosketch of Bro. Aston is not like the others:

1. Space Aliens
2. Bigfoot
3. Lehi
4. Yeti
5. None of the above

A__.

2






Am I right?

Almost.

Since you only made one mistake out of a five possible responses, how about a score of 80% (a good solid "B")? This is mainly because you provided videographic evidence in support of your selection.

[_Doctor Steuss]

I wonder if Brother Aston has ever theorized that the cumom of the Book of Mormon is actually the chupacabra. The geography fits, after all.

Another bull's-eye!

[_ldsfaqs]

A person can be considered a scientist because they use the scientific method and study out things.
I'm speaking in general terms. One doesn't have to have "credentials" to be a scientist.

This was very normal in past times in history, where people just did scientific work, they weren't generally "credentialed".
It's an elitist who thinks one HAS to be credentialed in order for anything they do to be considered "valid".

You might have been right in 1600. We've moved on. Do you think that self-appointed, opinionated people with no education can do what NASA does? Silly faqs.

Aston is a crackpot. Just like John Heinerman and John Pratt and that dude who thinks the galaxy shows the three degrees of glory. Just like the 'scientists' who proclaim hollow earth tribes from the north. Just like the angel mine believers.

And see, this is where the liberal and anti-Mormon goes into anti-intellectualism.
This kind of bigotry falsely assumes that "education" can ONLY be gained by "formal education".
Such people have no comprehension that some of the smartest, intelligent, successful, and scientific people who have ever lived had little or no formal education. It is only an elitist that believes formal education is true education. In fact, it can be said that formal education makes people more ignorant, because it "limits" thought into certain paradigms, rather than true learning and scientific discovery.

Clearly you don't even know what he say's in his UFO related research. You're simply judging him in your ignorance.
You don't actually know he's "just like" some of these other individuals.
Also, what part of that nearly everyone alive believes UFO's exist. So is everyone on the planet also "crackpots"?
Just because he researches the issue and reports his findings, doesn't equal a crackpot.
Your standard of truth and fact and judging it is very low. You see the word "UFO", and you automatically judge "crackpot".
LOL

Also, given that his work in Arabia has been excellent AND FACTUALLY TRUE..... well, anyone with a brain can see who the "actual" crackpot is in this discussion.
Again, I don't know his UFO work, so I can't judge (but you also being ignorant sure like to).... but I know his Arabia work, and it's entirely validated by plenty of other scientists and researchers. But ya, you keep spouting ignorant judgments. You're sooooo much more intelligent.

[_sock puppet]

A person can be considered a scientist because they use the scientific method and study out things.
I'm speaking in general terms. One doesn't have to have "credentials" to be a scientist.

This was very normal in past times in history, where people just did scientific work, they weren't generally "credentialed".
It's an elitist who thinks one HAS to be credentialed in order for anything they do to be considered "valid".

You might have been right in 1600. We've moved on. Do you think that self-appointed, opinionated people with no education can do what NASA does? Silly faqs.

Aston is a crackpot. Just like John Heinerman and John Pratt and that dude who thinks the galaxy shows the three degrees of glory. Just like the 'scientists' who proclaim hollow earth tribes from the north. Just like the angel mine believers.

And see, this is where the liberal and anti-Mormon goes into anti-intellectualism.
This kind of bigotry falsely assumes that "education" can ONLY be gained by "formal education".
Such people have no comprehension that some of the smartest, intelligent, successful, and scientific people who have ever lived had little or no formal education. It is only an elitist that believes formal education is true education. In fact, it can be said that formal education makes people more ignorant, because it "limits" thought into certain paradigms, rather than true learning and scientific discovery.

Clearly you don't even know what he say's in his UFO related research. You're simply judging him in your ignorance.
You don't actually know he's "just like" some of these other individuals.
Also, what part of that nearly everyone alive believes UFO's exist. So is everyone on the planet also "crackpots"?
Just because he researches the issue and reports his findings, doesn't equal a crackpot.
Your standard of truth and fact and judging it is very low. You see the word "UFO", and you automatically judge "crackpot".
LOL

Also, given that his work in Arabia has been excellent AND FACTUALLY TRUE..... well, anyone with a brain can see who the "actual" crackpot is in this discussion.
Again, I don't know his UFO work, so I can't judge (but you also being ignorant sure like to).... but I know his Arabia work, and it's entirely validated by plenty of other scientists and researchers. But ya, you keep spouting ignorant judgments. You're sooooo much more intelligent.

Uh, leeward, is Warren Aston your new champion? Do you find his insights about UFOs compelling? I'll bet that inquiring minds want to know.

By the way, have you signed up for Professor Darth J's Know Your Religion class that it is rumored he might be reviving this fall semester?

[_Gadianton]

Clearly you don't even know what he say's in his UFO related research. You're simply judging him in your ignorance.

You must have missed it -- thanks to your poor reading skills -- where Maskutov mentioned the UFO book written by Aston that he personally owns. In other words, Maskutov does in fact know what he says in his UFO research and it is you, no facts, who does not know.

You lose again.

[_DrW]

Also, given that his work in Arabia has been excellent AND FACTUALLY TRUE....

What aspect of Aston's "work" in Oman or on the Arabian Peninsula has been "FACTUALLY TRUE"?

Seriously.

As described here before, I have spent years in Saudi Arabia, Oman and the UAE, and have worked along, and traveled, the southeast coast of the Arabian Peninsula from Khor Fakkan to Salalah, and beyond, hiking in any number of the wadis along the way.

Aside from there being a desert wilderness inland from the coast and a few other general features such as year around water flow, etc., that could be found in any numbers of other locations, there is not a single distinctly Book of Mormon related claim made by Aston regarding this region of the Arabian Peninsula that is "true". None.

Present and past environments at both Wadi Sayq and Khor Rori do not, and did not:

- Provide a fertile environment with much fruit, honey and game. (1 Nephi 17:5,6; 1 Nephi 18:8)

- Provide a place suitable for launching a ship (1 Nephi 18:8)

- Provide enough timber (in quantity or quality) to build a durable ship (1 Nephi 18:1,2,6)

- Feature cliffs from which Nephi's brothers could threaten to cast him into the sea (1 Nephi 17:48)

Evidence from archaeologists and historians regarding ship building practices and materials in the area, as well as current photographic evidence (including satellite imagery) from these wadis, directly contradict Aston's silly claims.

Referring to satellite imagery from along the Omani coast, especially in the area along the coast from Wadi Sayq and Khor Rori, one can see that the headlands (where they exist at all) are severely eroded and do not feature shear cliffs. Furthermore, a coastal plain is a dominant feature of this coastline, the geological structure of which is pretty much exclusively eroded karst limestone. To cast someone into the sea from the cliffs rising up from the coastal plain would require that the castee be hurled hundreds of meters horizontally before plunging into the water.

Aston's claims regarding Khor Rori and Wadi Sayq are a joke.

[_Maksutov]

Even the great Jeff Lindsay is a fan of Brother Aston:

http://mormanity.blogspot.com/2013/05/s ... eting.html

"Warren's example shows how a lone member can fill the giant gaps left by the pros and make a huge difference. What tenacity and persistence! What an honor it was to meet him and learn from this humble, visionary man who looks forward to a day when many more people will value research and exploration into the things of the Book of Mormon. If you'd like to help fund some further exploratory work, let us know."

[_ldsfaqs]

DrW....

You are really ignorant.....
Every single one of your statements have been proven false with several scholar's and researchers works, one of the latest being "Lehi in the Wilderness..." by Potter and Wellington. I have the book myself, and every single one of your statements that you claim "don't exist" DO in fact exist, AND exist exactly where they should according to the Book of Mormon account. Make sure you get the Lehi's Trail DVD videos also, so you can SEE that you're a liar. http://nephiproject.com/

- Yes there exists the fruit, game, honey exactly where it should.
- Yes there is a LONG section of coast for ship launching with ALL the necessary materials for ship builing
- Yes ship building DID occur in those areas in Lehi's time
- Yes, there's is even STILL plenty of timber for ship building
- YES, there's also cliffs.

You are an utter liar..... Evidence from archaeologists and historians regarding ship building practices and materials in the area, as well as current photographic evidence (including satellite imagery) from these wadis, directly PROVE Aston's and other's claims, a.k.a. the Book of Mormon claims.

Further.... Aston while basically the first to research this stuff, others have further researched it, such as the book above.
So, it's ALL TRUE..... It's utterly fascinating to me how even in the face of actual archeology, physical proof, the liberal/anti-mormon STILL LIES and remains blind.

[_Darth J]

Ldsfaqs:

You're saying Warren Aston's apologetics cum business venture has been validated because other Mopologists agree with it. Am I understanding you correctly?

[_Darth J]

The 2015 fee for Warren Aston's Lehi's Journey bill of goods was $3,990 per person.

http://www.discovernephisbountiful.com/ ... y.html?m=1