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Re: Leaked Mormon Documents - Temple Purchasing Guide
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:53 pm
by _CameronMO
Somewhat related to this: I want to see the temple name chart, and how they come up with the names. The Temple Name Oracle needs to be as up-to-date as possible!
Re: Leaked Mormon Documents - Temple Purchasing Guide
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:42 pm
by _DoubtingThomas
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I kind of hope this guy keeps leaking documents. It might actually force the Mormon church to be transparent for once. The lack of transparency, for many, is a huge issue. Good to see something come to light.
The church has nothing to hide because most LDS are conservative Republicans. Conservative Republicans love the rich and powerful.
If the church ever publishes it's wealth, I doubt it would have a significant impact.
Re: Leaked Mormon Documents - Temple Purchasing Guide
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:36 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
DoubtingThomas wrote:Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I kind of hope this guy keeps leaking documents. It might actually force the Mormon church to be transparent for once. The lack of transparency, for many, is a huge issue. Good to see something come to light.
The church has nothing to hide because most LDS are conservative Republicans. Conservative Republicans love the rich and powerful.
If the church ever publishes it's wealth, I doubt it would have a significant impact.
I don't know. I'd like to think there would be a grassroots movement to divert some of the billions, much more than is being done, to actual charity work that is Christlike rather than something that is supposed to enhance the Church's reputation.
- Doc
Re: Leaked Mormon Documents - Temple Purchasing Guide
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:04 am
by _I have a question
It is interesting that none of the Apostles, not even leader of the Q12, are privy to cash flow or investment positions. That being the case, one wonders how they can confidently make claims about how the Church spends its money when they simply don't know?
Re: Leaked Mormon Documents - Temple Purchasing Guide
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:55 am
by _bcuzbcuz
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/53xktv/leaked_document_temple_purchasing_guide_i_have/
[–]mormondocuments [+2][S] 79 points 7 hours ago
This is probably the least juiciest document I have. The church has ruined my marriage, my life, and my career. I have nothing to lose. I have hundreds of documents (purchasing plans, departmental budgets, secret policy manuals, etc.) and I don't flinch to release them. I will release them over the course of the next week leading up to GenCon - which they spend over $1,000,000 on (yes, I have documentary proof of that too).
https://www.docdroid.net/GXZmSwV/temple-prg-2015.pdf.htmlI kind of hope this guy keeps leaking documents. It might actually force the Mormon church to be transparent for once. The lack of transparency, for many, is a huge issue. Good to see something come to light.
- Doc
I was surprised to find the Temples buy:
"Carpet Evolution Wand" order #56419 $ 550.51
From: CRW Cleaning and Restoration Supply
I didn´t know that the church was so into Harry Potter, nor that one could actually buy a carpet wand. $550.51 is superCHeap!!
Then all you need do is wave the wand, Say , "Scourgify!" In a loud voice and the whole place (well, at least the carpets) get cleaned as quick as a whistle.
And!!! This is proof that the church believes in Evolution. Or why else would they order a carpet "Evolution" wand, which must be a wand that grows with the task, or something like that.
Re: Leaked Mormon Documents - Temple Purchasing Guide
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:09 am
by _Chap
I have a question wrote: is interesting that none of the Apostles, not even leader of the Q12, are privy to cash flow or investment positions. That being the case, one wonders how they can confidently make claims about how the Church spends its money when they simply don't know?
Look, they know that Jesus wouldn't let anything bad happen with his money.
How do they know that? Sorry, the answer is just too sacred to talk about.
Re: Leaked Mormon Documents - Temple Purchasing Guide
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:27 am
by _Always Changing
Re: Leaked Mormon Documents - Temple Purchasing Guide
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:19 pm
by _I have a question
Always Changing wrote:http://www.ebay.com/bhp/carpet-cleaning-wand
CRW Supply
4282 South 590 West, 84123,
Salt Lake City, Utah, United States
http://www.xenia.com/en/company/crw-supply/945141627440What a lucky coincidence the company is headquartered in SLC.
Re: Leaked Mormon Documents - Temple Purchasing Guide
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:12 pm
by _Corsair
I have a question wrote:It is interesting that none of the Apostles, not even leader of the Q12, are privy to cash flow or investment positions. That being the case, one wonders how they can confidently make claims about how the Church spends its money when they simply don't know?
Would this level of financial transparency be similar to other large, privately held organizations? Cargill, Deloitte, Dell, and Albertsons are also
large, privately held corporations and I wonder if only a few C level executives know the full financial position in each case. All this would really confirm is that the "Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" is run by the usual standards of prudent corporate governance. I would have been surprised to see a reporting column for "God" or "Jehovah" (or "Lucifer") after all.
Re: Leaked Mormon Documents - Temple Purchasing Guide
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:20 pm
by _I have a question
Corsair wrote:I have a question wrote:It is interesting that none of the Apostles, not even leader of the Q12, are privy to cash flow or investment positions. That being the case, one wonders how they can confidently make claims about how the Church spends its money when they simply don't know?
Would this level of financial transparency be similar to other large, privately held organizations? Cargill, Deloitte, Dell, and Albertsons are also
large, privately held corporations and I wonder if only a few C level executives know the full financial position in each case. All this would really confirm is that the "Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" is run by the usual standards of prudent corporate governance. I would have been surprised to see a reporting column for "God" or "Jehovah" (or "Lucifer") after all.
I would imagine the main board (15 Apostles) of any large corporation would have full access to the financial reports of that corporation. Including cash flow and investments. It would be staggering if they didn't.