The Gospel of Jesus Christ is True: The LDS Church is Not

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Re: The Gospel of Jesus Christ is True: The LDS Church is No

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Hey W! :smile:


For a very long time now (5+years?), I have always looked forward to reading your board contributions. Even when I don't have very much interest in the thread topic, when I see that you have entered a post, I almost always go and read what you have to say. Simply put, I am a big fan of yours and I am grateful to have been able to consider you a friend over the years.

On a number of levels, this thread was a very special treat to have read.
Thank you for sharing it with us here.

Peace,
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Re: The Gospel of Jesus Christ is True: The LDS Church is No

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Ceeboo wrote:Hey W! :smile:


For a very long time now (5+years?), I have always looked forward to reading your board contributions. Even when I don't have very much interest in the thread topic, when I see that you have entered a post, I almost always go and read what you have to say. Simply put, I am a big fan of yours and I am grateful to have been able to consider you a friend over the years.

On a number of levels, this thread was a very special treat to have read.
Thank you for sharing it with us here.

Peace,
Ceeboo

Me too! There are really an enormous amount of top-quality solid people here to read an inform us with valid information. Dr. W is certainly one of the best.
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Re: The Gospel of Jesus Christ is True: The LDS Church is No

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Tator wrote:Often when I read Dr. W's posts I get this image of him in my head.

Why, thank you Tator.

I wish.

That is very kind of you. If that were to ever happen, I would be happy to buy you a Dos Equis or dos.
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Re: The Gospel of Jesus Christ is True: The LDS Church is No

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Ceeboo wrote:Hey W! :smile:
For a very long time now (5+years?), I have always looked forward to reading your board contributions. Even when I don't have very much interest in the thread topic, when I see that you have entered a post, I almost always go and read what you have to say. Simply put, I am a big fan of yours and I am grateful to have been able to consider you a friend over the years.

On a number of levels, this thread was a very special treat to have read.
Thank you for sharing it with us here.

Peace,
Ceeboo

Hello Ceeboo,

You know - I think it has been more than 5 years. As I have mentioned before, you are one of the individuals whose posts I will read whenever I see them. Thanks for the kind words and hope you are doing well.

I was thinking about you and some of the others on the board over the weekend while reading The Illusion of God's Presence: The Biological Origins of Spiritual Longing.

Forgetting about raccoons and whales for a time, this book has some great illustrations of evolution at work, not touching on speciation, or on abiogenesis, but on optimizing the adaptation of species to their environments to help ensure their survival.

There are some great illustrations (stories really) from natural history and some valuable insights into human behaviors related to religion, something I know is important to you. I think you would really enjoy the book.

Who knows, you might even find a different way of understanding those of us not blessed with a god shaped vacuum in our psyches.
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Re: The Gospel of Jesus Christ is True: The LDS Church is No

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I find it interesting that even at an old age that she was willing to take it past "the Church is true but the members aren't" phase. It shows that the Church has jumped the shark.
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Re: The Gospel of Jesus Christ is True: The LDS Church is No

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Pew data shows that the Church is not growing as a share of US. population

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/amer ... 12_rls-00/
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Re: The Gospel of Jesus Christ is True: The LDS Church is No

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Philo Sofee wrote:
Ceeboo wrote:Hey W! :smile:


For a very long time now (5+years?), I have always looked forward to reading your board contributions. Even when I don't have very much interest in the thread topic, when I see that you have entered a post, I almost always go and read what you have to say. Simply put, I am a big fan of yours and I am grateful to have been able to consider you a friend over the years.

On a number of levels, this thread was a very special treat to have read.
Thank you for sharing it with us here.

Peace,
Ceeboo

Me too! There are really an enormous amount of top-quality solid people here to read an inform us with valid information. Dr. W is certainly one of the best.

Philo Sofee,

You are among a very small and elite group on MDB: former active and influential Mormon apologists.

The fact that you are one who studied the issues, and then had the courage and integrity to speak the truth about the LDS Church, even though it meant giving up a high profile position, the admiration and security of your former tribe, and undoubtedly the loss of friends, gives added weight to your words here.

That's how I see it, anyway.
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Re: The Gospel of Jesus Christ is True: The LDS Church is No

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DrW wrote:Philo Sofee,

You are among a very small and elite group on MDB: former active and influential Mormon apologists.


He is, but we need him on Youtube. I hope he makes new Youtube videos debunking the apologists.
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Re: The Gospel of Jesus Christ is True: The LDS Church is No

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DoubtingThomas wrote:
DrW wrote:Philo Sofee,

You are among a very small and elite group on MDB: former active and influential Mormon apologists.


He is, but we need him on Youtube. I hope he makes new Youtube videos debunking the apologists.


I agree. It would be like seeing his backyard from a totally different perspective. Philo could be the Bill Nye of Mormon scholarship.
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