Hales and Joseph Smith's Polyandry

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DoubtingThomas wrote:
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Yep, TROLL and LIAR.


okay kid! I will stop replying to you. Grow up!

If you want a conversation just answer my questions, if not, f*** off!!

DoubtingThomas wrote:The main reason why I am not sure about sexual polandry is because Dan Vogel said that Sylvia's case is the best evidence for that. If he is right, then it is not enough in my opinion.

DoubtingThomas wrote:I agree, all he needs to do is prove that Joseph Smith f**ed Sylvia, or his other polyandrous wives. I am simply open to other possibilities because I haven't seen enough evidence


Answered. You're just here to TROLL. Sad, really.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:I do agree Joseph Smith likely had sex with his polygamous wives. D&C says nothing about polyandry, and there is evidence that Joseph Smith believed in own s***! Joseph Smith likely believed in christianity and sin.

The main reason why I am not sure about sexual polandry is because Dan Vogel said that Sylvia's case is the best evidence for that. If he is right, then it is not enough in my opinion.

There is a lot of evidence that Brigham Young taught the Adam-God Theory, I don't need science to tell me that.

I'm having difficulty trying to understand the first paragraph above. Are you saying that, from Joseph's point of view, Sylvia was not a "polygamous" wife? The relationship was polygynous from Joseph's side, and polyandrous from Sylvia's, right?
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malkie wrote:
DoubtingThomas wrote:I do agree Joseph Smith likely had sex with his polygamous wives. D&C says nothing about polyandry, and there is evidence that Joseph Smith believed in own s***! Joseph Smith likely believed in christianity and sin.

The main reason why I am not sure about sexual polandry is because Dan Vogel said that Sylvia's case is the best evidence for that. If he is right, then it is not enough in my opinion.

There is a lot of evidence that Brigham Young taught the Adam-God Theory, I don't need science to tell me that.

I'm having difficulty trying to understand the first paragraph above. Are you saying that, from Joseph's point of view, Sylvia was not a "polygamous" wife? The relationship was polygynous from Joseph's side, and polyandrous from Sylvia's, right?


Sylvia was a polyandrous wife, not a polygamous wife.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:I do agree Joseph Smith likely had sex with his polygamous wives. D&C says nothing about polyandry, and there is evidence that Joseph Smith believed in own s***! Joseph Smith likely believed in christianity and sin.

The main reason why I am not sure about sexual polandry is because Dan Vogel said that Sylvia's case is the best evidence for that. If he is right, then it is not enough in my opinion.

There is a lot of evidence that Brigham Young taught the Adam-God Theory, I don't need science to tell me that.

DoubtingThomas wrote:
malkie wrote:I'm having difficulty trying to understand the first paragraph above. Are you saying that, from Joseph's point of view, Sylvia was not a "polygamous" wife? The relationship was polygynous from Joseph's side, and polyandrous from Sylvia's, right?


Sylvia was a polyandrous wife, not a polygamous wife.

How can she be "a polyandrous wife, not a polygamous wife"?

wikipedia wrote:Polygamy ... involves marriage with more than one spouse. When a man is married to more than one wife at a time, it is called polygyny. When a woman is married to more than one husband at a time, it is called polyandry.

In other words, polygyny and polyandry are subsets of polygamy.

This is why I said, above: "The relationship was polygynous from Joseph's side, and polyandrous from Sylvia's, right?". That is, Sylvia had more than one husband, one of whom was Joseph, and Joseph had more than one wife, one of whom was Sylvia. Both Sylvia and Joseph were in polygamous relationships.
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malkie wrote:How can she be "a polyandrous wife, not a polygamous wife"?


okay
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malkie wrote:
This is why I said, above: "The relationship was polygynous from Joseph's side, and polyandrous from Sylvia's, right?". That is, Sylvia had more than one husband, one of whom was Joseph, and Joseph had more than one wife, one of whom was Sylvia. Both Sylvia and Joseph were in polygamous relationships.


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DoubtingThomas wrote:God f*** Mary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbzc8rOgMsA

:lol:
what's the point of posting that in this thread?
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Lemmie wrote:
DoubtingThomas wrote:God f*** Mary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbzc8rOgMsA

:lol:
what's the point of posting that in this thread?


it's celestial polyandry
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Lemmie wrote:
DoubtingThomas wrote:God f*** Mary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbzc8rOgMsA

:lol:
what's the point of posting that in this thread?


DoubtingThomas wrote:it's celestial polyandry

Really?

You do know that being married is part of the definition of polygamy, right?

You do know, do you not, that people can f*** without being married, right?

God could f*** a million women without being a polygamist or, (more strictly, from his PoV), being in polygynous relationships with them.
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