Faith is horribly unrealiable for determining reality

[_Sanctorian]

http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/5220971-155/op-ed-faith-is-a-horribly-unreliable

Daniels' attempts at reconciliation notwithstanding, science and faith are incompatible, both in content and process. Natural and supernatural explanations inherently conflict. In science, faith is a vice; in religion, it's a virtue, as biologist Jerry Coyne remarked. Science vigorously attempts to disconfirm favored hypotheses: Experimental "control" groups serve to evaluate alternative, possibly better explanations. In contrast, religion preaches that you should "doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith."

[_I have a question]

"God did it" could explain anything, and hence explains nothing.

Faith is a horribly unreliable tool for determining empirical realities. Of course, some faith-based claims are correct. Even the Magic 8-Ball is right some of the time. The fundamental problem isn't that particular answers based on magic are wrong; it's relying on magical powers to begin with.

As a rationale, "My faith says," deserves the same respect as, "My Magic 8-Ball says": None.

This.

[_DrW]

Faithful Mormons promoting a March for Science is like arms dealers promoting a March for Peace.

[_Dr Exiled]

But I love my magic 8 ball! It's right 50% of the time and the other 50% of the time it is trying to teach me a lesson, so I can be grateful.

[_sock puppet]

But I love my magic 8 ball! It's right 50% of the time and the other 50% of the time it is trying to teach me a lesson, so I can be grateful.

Is that lesson to be more grateful for the times when your magic 8 ball happens to be correct?

[_deacon blues]

But I love my magic 8 ball! It's right 50% of the time and the other 50% of the time it is trying to teach me a lesson, so I can be grateful.

This applies perfectly to Elder Holland's 'Road Taken, and then other Road Taken' talk.

[_DrW]

But I love my magic 8 ball! It's right 50% of the time and the other 50% of the time it is trying to teach me a lesson, so I can be grateful.

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Actually it's probably right far less than 50% of the time, because there are a lot more than two possible responses - but who's counting.

[_Res Ipsa]

I think faith is in a dead heat with imagination.

[_huckelberry]

I have faith that the advice to doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith is bad advice. It smells bad enough that it should not be let into the house.

[_Res Ipsa]

Faithful Mormons promoting a March for Science is like arms dealers promoting a March for Peace.

Naw, I think faithful Mormons promoting a March for Science is like being human.