The story to which Brown calls attention is the account, often called “the miraculous draught of fishes,” recounted at Luke 5:1-11. They had had no luck, but Jesus tells Peter and his associates to cast their net one more time. Doubtful, but already deeply impressed with Jesus, they do so and now they gather so many fish that their two boats nearly sink with the weight of the catch.
Verse 11 concludes the story by saying that, “when they had brought their ships to land, they forsook all, and followed him.”
But surely they didn’t just wastefully leave all those fish aboard their boats. Instead, Brown suggests, they would have taken the fish for processing — very likely to Magdala (or Taricheae), the most important center for such work in the area. A catch of fish as large as Luke describes would have sustained the families of the fishermen for months, if not for perhaps even a year or two.
Jesus would shortly call these men to leave their familiar Galilee in order to be “fishers of men” (Matthew 4:19). So the miracle of the wondrous catch of fish may have been not only intended to demonstrate Christ’s power over nature but designed as a practical measure to care for the apostles’ families while they were away.
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
Kevin Graham wrote:So they had electric freezers 2000 years ago to preserve the fish?
Has Dan tried eating fish caught a month prior, let alone a year, that wasn't frozen first? Did bacteria not exist 2000 years ago?
The first rule of Mormonism is "do not let the facts get in the way of a faith promoting story." As long as one has a warm and fuzzy feeling, the facts don't matter.
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen
Kevin Graham wrote:So they had electric freezers 2000 years ago to preserve the fish?
Actually, in pre-Frigidaire times there were several methods used to preserve fish. I think smoking, salting, and pickling techniques would have been available to your average first century Galilean fish mogul.
The story to which Brown calls attention is the account, often called “the miraculous draught of fishes,” recounted at Luke 5:1-11. They had had no luck, but Jesus tells Peter and his associates to cast their net one more time. Doubtful, but already deeply impressed with Jesus, they do so and now they gather so many fish that their two boats nearly sink with the weight of the catch.
Verse 11 concludes the story by saying that, “when they had brought their ships to land, they forsook all, and followed him.”
But surely they didn’t just wastefully leave all those fish aboard their boats. Instead, Brown suggests, they would have taken the fish for processing — very likely to Magdala (or Taricheae), the most important center for such work in the area. A catch of fish as large as Luke describes would have sustained the families of the fishermen for months, if not for perhaps even a year or two.
Jesus would shortly call these men to leave their familiar Galilee in order to be “fishers of men” (Matthew 4:19). So the miracle of the wondrous catch of fish may have been not only intended to demonstrate Christ’s power over nature but designed as a practical measure to care for the apostles’ families while they were away.
I see what Dipstick and Hambone did there; they tried to finesse "forsook all" right out of that scripture to justify why LDS do not teach that all should be forsaken by LDS to follow Jesus. Them apologists, theys luv their creature comforts.
RockSlider wrote:Nothing like a prosperity gospel, eh?
Imagine Dipstick and Hambone forsaking their pensions and comfortable homes to follow Jesus? Me either. It's as inconceivable to me that they would do so as I am sure it is 'out of the question' to them.
They (of course) then had Jesus doing this daily to support the new Corporation they put together, so they all could have lots of money to be able to preach the gospel. They all needed two or three homes, condos in Jerusalem, fast camels, spiffy robes and lots of assistants and correlation people. They also had to start their own FAIRJESUS foundation, to combat all those Anti's (Pharisees, etc).
Riding on a speeding train; trapped inside a revolving door; Lost in the riddle of a quatrain; Stuck in an elevator between floors. One focal point in a random world can change your direction: One step where events converge may alter your perception.
Kevin Graham wrote:So they had electric freezers 2000 years ago to preserve the fish?
Actually, in pre-Frigidaire times there were several methods used to preserve fish. I think smoking, salting, and pickling techniques would have been available to your average first century Galilean fish mogul.
if the norse mythology would have won, (thor, not the stupid jehova) we would eat surströmming daily
Surströmming (pronounced [²sʉːˌʂʈrœmːɪŋ], Swedish for "sour herring") is fermented Baltic Sea herring that has been a part of traditional northern Swedish cuisine since at least the 16th century.
Just enough salt is used to prevent the raw fish from rotting (chemical decomposition). A fermentation process of at least six months gives the lightly-salted fish a characteristic strong smell and somewhat acidic taste.
When a can of surströmming is opened, the contents release a strong and sometimes overwhelming odor. The dish is ordinarily eaten outdoors. According to a Japanese study, a newly opened can of surströmming has one of the most putrid food smells in the world, even more so than similarly fermented fish dishes such as the Korean hongeohoe or Japanese kusaya.
the east european version is "ruszli" (no real english translation; it would be marinade with onion or russian fish)
more environment friend
Choyo Chagas is Chairman of the Big Four, the ruler of the planet from "The Bull's Hour" ( Russian: Час Быка), a social science fiction novel written by Soviet author and paleontologist Ivan Yefremov in 1968. Six months after its publication Soviet authorities banned the book and attempted to remove it from libraries and bookshops.