Peterson lies to a London cabbie.

[_I have a question]

On our ride from Heathrow Airport into London yesterday, we had an amusing, curious, knowledgeable, and talkative cab driver.

At one point, he asked where in the States we were from. When we answered “Utah,” saying that we had just flown in from Salt Lake City, he was thoughtful for a moment. Then he asked, “Isn’t that where those Mormons live?” He had, he said, just watched a really fascinating item on television about a Mormon in Utah with three wives, who was considering marrying his brother’s three widows. “That,” he observed, “is pretty strange.”

I thought that I should mention that we were Mormons, and that the woman riding with me is my only wife.

“Oh,” he said. “So they’re not all polygamists?”

“No,” I responded. “In fact, for the past 127 years, any member of the Church who takes a second wife is excommunicated. Booted out.”

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeterso ... -done.html

Not strictly true that Dan, and you know it isn't.

I just want to observe that we haven’t yet begun to tell our story nearly well enough or widely enough.

Nor truthfully enough, it seems.

On an exceptional basis, a smaller number of plural marriages were performed within the United States between the years 1890 and 1904.

https://www.lds.org/topics/plural-marri ... g&old=true

Plus he neglected to mention to the cabbie that Mormons believe in polygamy in the next life, a number of current Apostles, not to mention members have already arranged it.

[_Symmachus]

Maybe it was just small talk rather than lies. If so, I think it would be rude to burden the poor guy with a scrupulous account of post-manifesto polygamy. I certainly don't like being roped into esoteric discussions of stuff I don't give a crap about. My impression is that, unlike ex-Mormons, most non-Mormons simply don't give a good god damn about Mormonism, since they already know it's nonsense.

[_Craig Paxton]

I agree he's lying....Nobody takes a Cab from Heathrow to London...the Tube is too easy and much cheaper

[_aussieguy55]

I simply shared with DCP the relevant pages of Solemn Covenant (B Carmon Hardy) to show he was talking out his backside.

[_zerinus]

I agree he's lying....Nobody takes a Cab from Heathrow to London...the Tube is too easy and much cheaper

You are talking rubbish. The lies are coming from you. Many times I have taken cabs from Heathrow to London, or the reverse. Not lately, because I don't travel much nowadays; but in earlier times when I used to. There are many advantages to taking a cab, especially if you are old, weak, or have a lot of luggage to carry; or if you are new to London, and don't know your way around. To go by Tube, you first have to traverse a long distance to get to the Tube station, which is awkward especially if you have a lot of luggage to carry. Secondly, depending on your destination, you may have to change trains several times, which is again difficult if you have a lot of luggage to carry. Finally, when you arrive at the final Tube station, you may still have to take a cab to take you to your destination; unless it is close, and you can walk the distance with your luggage without difficulty.

If you take a cab direct from Heathrow, however, first of all it is a lot easier to get to. It is a short walk. Secondly, the cab will take you straight to your final destination without any stops, which is a lot more convenient. It does cost more; but it is not prohibitive. A cab will cost between £45 and £70, whereas the Tube will cost around £6. Another advantage of the Tube is that it is a lot faster. The Taxi will take about an hour to take you to central London, because it travels above ground, and it has to negotiate traffic lights and speed limits etc. The Tube travels a straight line, and goes faster. If you are young, healthy and agile, don't have a lot of luggage to carry, and like to save your money, the Tube is better. If you are old, weak, or infirm, or have a lot of luggage to carry; or if you are new to London, and don't know your way around, the cab is better, even if it costs more.

[_sock puppet]

I agree he's lying....Nobody takes a Cab from Heathrow to London...the Tube is too easy and much cheaper

You are talking rubbish. The lies are coming from you. Many times I have taken cabs from Heathrow to London, or the reverse. Not lately, because I don't travel much nowadays; but in earlier times when I used to. There are many advantages to taking a cab, especially if you are old, weak, or have a lot of luggage to carry; or if you are new to London, and don't know your way around. To go by Tube, you first have to traverse a long distance to get to the Tube station, which is awkward especially if you have a lot of luggage to carry. Secondly, depending on your destination, you may have to change trains several times, which is again difficult if you have a lot of luggage to carry. Finally, when you arrive at the final Tube station, you may still have to take a cab to take you to your destination; unless it is close, and you can walk the distance with your luggage without difficulty.

If you take a cab direct from Heathrow, however, first of all it is a lot easier to get to. It is a short walk. Secondly, the cab will take you straight to your final destination without any stops, which is a lot more convenient. It does cost more; but it is not prohibitive. A cab will cost between £45 and £70, whereas the Tube will cost around £6. Another advantage of the Tube is that it is a lot faster. The Taxi will take about an hour to take you to central London, because it travels above ground, and it has to negotiate traffic lights and speed limits etc. The Tube travels a straight line, and goes faster. If you are young, healthy and agile, don't have a lot of luggage to carry, and like to save your money, the Tube is better. If you are old, weak, or infirm, or have a lot of luggage to carry; or if you are new to London, and don't know your way around, the cab is better, even if it costs more.

You convinced me. DCP is certainly mentally infirm.

[_Craig Paxton]

I agree he's lying....Nobody takes a Cab from Heathrow to London...the Tube is too easy and much cheaper

You are talking rubbish. The lies are coming from you. Many times I have taken cabs from Heathrow to London, or the reverse. Not lately, because I don't travel much nowadays; but in earlier times when I used to. There are many advantages to taking a cab, especially if you are old, weak, or have a lot of luggage to carry; or if you are new to London, and don't know your way around. To go by Tube, you first have to traverse a long distance to get to the Tube station, which is awkward especially if you have a lot of luggage to carry. Secondly, depending on your destination, you may have to change trains several times, which is again difficult if you have a lot of luggage to carry. Finally, when you arrive at the final Tube station, you may still have to take a cab to take you to your destination; unless it is close, and you can walk the distance with your luggage without difficulty.

If you take a cab direct from Heathrow, however, first of all it is a lot easier to get to. It is a short walk. Secondly, the cab will take you straight to your final destination without any stops, which is a lot more convenient. It does cost more; but it is not prohibitive. A cab will cost between £45 and £70, whereas the Tube will cost around £6. Another advantage of the Tube is that it is a lot faster. The Taxi will take about an hour to take you to central London, because it travels above ground, and it has to negotiate traffic lights and speed limits etc. The Tube travels a straight line, and goes faster. If you are young, healthy and agile, don't have a lot of luggage to carry, and like to save your money, the Tube is better. If you are old, weak, or infirm, or have a lot of luggage to carry; or if you are new to London, and don't know your way around, the cab is better, even if it costs more.

While I generally agree with your overall assessment of Heathrow transportation options, as someone who frequents Heathrow several times a year I would just like to add and correct you on a few points. 1st from any of the 5 terminals at Heathrow...access to the tube is easily accessable...in fact from some it is easier than accessing the taxi stand. 2nd Only idiots take large amounts of luggage to Europe....but this would also reflect negatively on Mr. Perterson. 3rd The fat, old or otherwise unfirm would have a definite advantages with a taxi vs using the tube...so this again does help to support Mr. Peterson's claim. 4th London's traffic is horrific...so despite your claim that a taxi would only cost between £45 and £70 this would be during the night low traffic hours rather than when planes generally arrive at Heathrow. I would estimate that a typical taxi would run closer to £100 to £150 + tip during day time high traffic times. A smart even unhealthy old and fat person even those with large amounts of luggage would simply place their luggage conveniently on a carriage, walk a few steps to the Heathrow Express train which will quickly take you from Heathrow to central London's Paddington station in 15 min for £22 from which, if one still needs a taxi, can be quickly transported directly to their hotel....thus reducing over all cost by perhaps as much as $50-$75 dollar (I've calculated the exchange rate).

So what can we assume? 1. Mr. Perterson is traveling on a expense account and does not have to worry about his costs since someone else is paying for his trip. 2. Mr Perterson is not a very smart traveler and 3. Mr Peterson is either fat, unfirm, unhealthy, old and takes way too much luggage...or all of the afore mentioned. 4. Mr. Peterson is being less than honest in his claimed conversation with the taxi cad driver in his portrayal of Mormon Polygamy...which is still church doctrine with several members of the 12 practicing polygamy even today.

[_Chap]

A smart even unhealthy old and fat person even those with large amounts of luggage would simply place their luggage conveniently on a carriage, walk a few steps to the Heathrow Express train which will quickly take you from Heathrow to central London's Paddington station in 15 min for £22 from which, if one still needs a taxi, can be quickly transported directly to their hotel....thus reducing over all cost by perhaps as much as $50-$75 dollar (I've calculated the exchange rate).

Er, yes. I really cannot see why anybody would want to take a taxi all the way from Heathrow to central London. Heathrow Express any time.

And incidentally, zerinus's comments above seem to indicate that far from being a naïve teenager (which is what I had him figured as) he is a person of ... well, a certain age. An old, angry, Mormon on the defensive. It figures.

[_CameronMO]

You are talking rubbish. The lies are coming from you. Many times I have taken cabs from Heathrow to London, or the reverse. Not lately, because I don't travel much nowadays; but in earlier times when I used to. There are many advantages to taking a cab, especially if you are old, weak, or have a lot of luggage to carry; or if you are new to London, and don't know your way around. To go by Tube, you first have to traverse a long distance to get to the Tube station, which is awkward especially if you have a lot of luggage to carry. Secondly, depending on your destination, you may have to change trains several times, which is again difficult if you have a lot of luggage to carry. Finally, when you arrive at the final Tube station, you may still have to take a cab to take you to your destination; unless it is close, and you can walk the distance with your luggage without difficulty.

If you take a cab direct from Heathrow, however, first of all it is a lot easier to get to. It is a short walk. Secondly, the cab will take you straight to your final destination without any stops, which is a lot more convenient. It does cost more; but it is not prohibitive. A cab will cost between £45 and £70, whereas the Tube will cost around £6. Another advantage of the Tube is that it is a lot faster. The Taxi will take about an hour to take you to central London, because it travels above ground, and it has to negotiate traffic lights and speed limits etc. The Tube travels a straight line, and goes faster. If you are young, healthy and agile, don't have a lot of luggage to carry, and like to save your money, the Tube is better. If you are old, weak, or infirm, or have a lot of luggage to carry; or if you are new to London, and don't know your way around, the cab is better, even if it costs more.

While I generally agree with your overall assessment of Heathrow transportation options, as someone who frequents Heathrow several times a year I would just like to add and correct you on a few points. 1st from any of the 5 terminals at Heathrow...access to the tube is easily accessable...in fact from some it is easier than accessing the taxi stand. 2nd Only idiots take large amounts of luggage to Europe....but this would also reflect negatively on Mr. Perterson. 3rd The fat, old or otherwise unfirm would have a definite advantages with a taxi vs using the tube...so this again does help to support Mr. Peterson's claim. 4th London's traffic is horrific...so despite your claim that a taxi would only cost between £45 and £70 this would be during the night low traffic hours rather than when planes generally arrive at Heathrow. I would estimate that a typical taxi would run closer to £100 to £150 + tip during day time high traffic times. A smart even unhealthy old and fat person even those with large amounts of luggage would simply place their luggage conveniently on a carriage, walk a few steps to the Heathrow Express train which will quickly take you from Heathrow to central London's Paddington station in 15 min for £22 from which, if one still needs a taxi, can be quickly transported directly to their hotel....thus reducing over all cost by perhaps as much as $50-$75 dollar (I've calculated the exchange rate).

So what can we assume? 1. Mr. Perterson is traveling on a expense account and does not have to worry about his costs since someone else is paying for his trip. 2. Mr Perterson is not a very smart traveler and 3. Mr Peterson is either fat, unfirm, unhealthy, old and takes way too much luggage...or all of the afore mentioned. 4. Mr. Peterson is being less than honest in his claimed conversation with the taxi cad driver in his portrayal of Mormon Polygamy...which is still church doctrine with several members of the 12 practicing polygamy even today.

I was eagerly awaiting for your reply. It didn't disappoint!

by the way, my dad isn't part of the Q12; he's just a regular, old, retired guy that was "called" to work in the temple. And he's an eternal polygamist.