Does FP/12 have a current theologian?

[_sock puppet]

Back in the days when I was active, JFieldingS and BRM were the theologians. NAM was a touchy, feely kind of 12, and knew how to tug on emotions. But if you wanted someone with the cajones to proclaim what it meant to be Mormon, it was Fielding and then Bruce. They would each boldly proclaim what no other FP/12 then or since has dared say.

Today, I don't see any such theologians among the FP/12. I see GC-talk givers and place holders, ladies-in-waiting in line hoping they outlive those ahead of them. (GC talks that are the Lite version compared to what once was proclaimed from the pulpit in the tabernacle in SLC.)

The mopes claim that there's really nothing quintessentially Mormon after all; everything we were taught growing up was our fault for ever having believed it for a second (and not, say at age 12, having run right away to a library to do our own research). What an insidious and ridiculous attempt to guilt-trip us, Mormon style--it's the member's fault. Just like the mind games when they now try to say the Church never forbade Coke or other caffeinated soda pop. (I admit, there are many good intentioned, well meaning LDS, but it is hard to have respect for them when they turn that around on you, or claim that Church has never taught that, but would never so much as let a Dr Pepper cross their lips.)

Perhaps some of you can explain which of the FP/12 today spout any theological doctrines? I do admit, Holland the Dodo tried with his wrong road at the fork story. He tried to make lemonade out of a lemon--well, actually out of thin air. That lame attempt, however, fell pretty flat on its face.

Who today of the FP/12 tries to explain the atonement like BRM did?

[_grindael]

Theologians? Skilled in ancient languages? Ancient History? Ha! Mediocre students of Mormon History. Rather they were propagandists who made up more crap than anything else.

[_Dr Exiled]

It's a different era today with the internet. Mormonism and religion in general are being exposed as nonsense.

[_sock puppet]

Theologians? Skilled in ancient languages? Ancient History? Ha! Mediocre students of Mormon History. Rather they were propagandists who made up more crap than anything else.

But Fielding and Bruce were willing to do just that, make crap up.

[_sock puppet]

It's a different era today with the internet. Mormonism and religion in general are being exposed as nonsense.

Ready availability of information has pushed the entirety of the FP/12 into the corner of silence.

[_tapirrider]

They don't need a theologian, they have this.

[_sock puppet]

They don't need a theologian, they have this.

Yea, but isn't JSjr the only one who claimed that his pet rock talked to him?

[_tapirrider]

They don't need a theologian, they have this.

Yea, but isn't JSjr the only one who claimed that his pet rock talked to him?

If it worked for him it should work for them. They just don't have enough faith.

[_sock puppet]

They don't need a theologian, they have this.

Yea, but isn't JSjr the only one who claimed that his pet rock talked to him?

If it worked for him it should work for them. They just don't have enough faith.

Taking a page from their own book, the one about blaming the members--but here with a twist, blame the rock's silence on the successors' lack of faith. Sweet and sour.

[_Yahoo Bot]

The concept of a "theology" is somewhat foreign to Mormon doctrine and Elder McConkie and Pres. Smith did not claim to be theologians. Rather, they were scriptorians. I read somewhat closely Elder McConkie's Doctrinal New Testament Commentary and it was evident that he was unfamiliar with critical New Testament scholarship or the fundamental assertions of other learned authors of commentaries. Particular problematic passages, well-debated for centuries on the meaning, with alternative readings, were not noted by Elder McConkie. He did not even note marginal notes which provided alternatives. (Indeed, the Church's Bible is not really the King James Version as it has dropped the marginal notes -- which are required as part of the KJV text.)

The last legitimate theologians who were general authorities were Roberts, Talmage and to some degree Widstoe. Roberts published books on rational theology where, like Aquinas, he took both sides of a dispute to come up with a resolution.

There are theologians, but they are not general authorities, and I doubt much that the Church cares about relying upon a theologian. `But, the Church does, I believe, employ exegetes.