The PlanS of Salvation
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_sock puppet
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The PlanS of Salvation
Here are some interesting diagrams of the various iterations of the "plan of salvation" from various LDS luminaries of the past.
https://bycommonconsent.com/2017/05/22/ ... ent-388042
https://bycommonconsent.com/2017/05/22/ ... ent-388042
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_CameronMO
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Re: The PlanS of Salvation
First comment:

Nate with. says:
May 22, 2017 at 10:55 am
Which is the plan with TK smoothies?
Trimble, you ignorant sack of rhinoceros puss. The only thing more obvious than your lack of education is the foul stench that surrounds you.
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_Kishkumen
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Re: The PlanS of Salvation
"Plan" of salvation. Yeah, right.
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_Tator
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Re: The PlanS of Salvation
This seems like the Rube Goldberg guide to the Mormon "Plan of Salvation".
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_JLHPROF
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Re: The PlanS of Salvation
These are really interesting. A good demonstration of revelation coming line upon line.
The question still remains though, which came by revelation and which were the opinions of men.
(I know, I know, according to most here they're all fantasy. But for those who actually believe this is an important distinction.)
The question still remains though, which came by revelation and which were the opinions of men.
(I know, I know, according to most here they're all fantasy. But for those who actually believe this is an important distinction.)
Thy mind, O man! if thou wilt lead a soul unto salvation, must stretch as high as the utmost heavens, and search into and contemplate the darkest abyss, and the broad expanse of eternity—thou must commune with God. - Joseph Smith
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_Kishkumen
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Re: The PlanS of Salvation
My questions are more like this: which options are more appealing, make more sense, and create better practical outcomes?
On the topic of spirits, I prefer Smith's idea of the eternal spirit that is "adopted" by God. For one thing, I have always found the idea of spirit babies to be treacly, literalistic nonsense. Also, I prefer adoption theology for my Christology too. Jesus as God baby is obviously a myth invented to place Jesus on par with other important figures like Alexander the Great and Augustus. Add to this the fact that Arian was right about Christ being subordinate to the Father. This is more compatible with Mormonism too. There is a lot of room for improvement in current Mormon theology. Some of the tools already exist in the old Mormon literature. By and large the ground lies fallow, waiting for good cultivators.
On the topic of spirits, I prefer Smith's idea of the eternal spirit that is "adopted" by God. For one thing, I have always found the idea of spirit babies to be treacly, literalistic nonsense. Also, I prefer adoption theology for my Christology too. Jesus as God baby is obviously a myth invented to place Jesus on par with other important figures like Alexander the Great and Augustus. Add to this the fact that Arian was right about Christ being subordinate to the Father. This is more compatible with Mormonism too. There is a lot of room for improvement in current Mormon theology. Some of the tools already exist in the old Mormon literature. By and large the ground lies fallow, waiting for good cultivators.
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_Nightlion
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Re: The PlanS of Salvation
Kishkumen wrote: There is a lot of room for improvement in current Mormon theology. Some of the tools already exist in the old Mormon literature. By and large the ground lies fallow, waiting for good cultivators.
I even gave it an update a few years ago. All I can say is that it explains EVERYTHING beyond your wildest dreams.
Is it because I spurn academia? That's it right?
It's linked in my sig. by the way
The Apocalrock Manifesto and Wonders of Eternity: New Mormon Theology
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https://www.docdroid.net/KDt8RNP/the-apocalrock-manifesto.pdf
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_Philo Sofee
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Re: The PlanS of Salvation
JLHPROF wrote:These are really interesting. A good demonstration of revelation coming line upon line.
The question still remains though, which came by revelation and which were the opinions of men.
(I know, I know, according to most here they're all fantasy. But for those who actually believe this is an important distinction.)
Its all been opinion of men......... that's the part the church won't own up to.....
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Re: The PlanS of Salvation
sock puppet wrote:Here are some interesting diagrams of the various iterations of the "plan of salvation" from various LDS luminaries of the past.
https://bycommonconsent.com/2017/05/22/ ... ent-388042
For something given via revelation there sure seems to be little knowledge and lots o guessin! No surprise anymore though.......obviously, its not really that important to God for us to know much about the reality if there is any.......that God, hes SUCH a clown isn't he:?!
Dr CamNC4Me
"Dr. Peterson and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud."
"Dr. Peterson and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud."
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Re: The PlanS of Salvation
Philo Sofee wrote:sock puppet wrote:Here are some interesting diagrams of the various iterations of the "plan of salvation" from various LDS luminaries of the past.
https://bycommonconsent.com/2017/05/22/ ... ent-388042
For something given via revelation there sure seems to be little knowledge and lots o guessin! No surprise anymore though.......obviously, its not really that important to God for us to know much about the reality if there is any.......that God, hes SUCH a clown isn't he:?!
A sad, little clown. Yes, Mormon god certainly is.