Intellectually Troubled Mormonism and Logic

[Guest]

Sure there is evidence of a Big Bang, but ya hafta read the cosmologists not Thomas Monson or Boyd K. Packer to understand the evidences and how they work..... you won't learn about them from Russell M. Nelson either. And, no, unfortunately, neither will any other General Authority, oh say the caliber of Jeffery Holland will inform you of much either. My suggestion, and it's only a suggestion, is, don't read the Book of Mormon for the Big Bang, they didn't know about it either. Read the scientists, the ones who actually study it. I will give you a hint, the universe is expanding and there is astonishingly excellent evidence for that.

There is no science that proves that there was a big bang.

[_zerinus]

For Zerinus, Mason is a fellow LDS defender who attempts to calm the ruffled feathers of a deceived priesthood. He fails miserably, because, of course, he doesn't possess half the knowledge that you do. He needs your help. You need to find a way to get your own books into Deseret Book to save the failing and flailing testimonies of so many hundreds of thousands of Mormons worldwide. The Lord NEEDS you friend! His work is overloaded, so he needs that vibrant and light filled testimony of yours to help him fill the world. He can't do it alone, the Lord is merely omniscient. He needs humans who have real knowledge to fill in where he can't.....

Mormonism does not need James Mason to come to it's defence. Perhaps someone needs to tell him that.

[_Philo Sofee]

Sure there is evidence of a Big Bang, but ya hafta read the cosmologists not Thomas Monson or Boyd K. Packer to understand the evidences and how they work..... you won't learn about them from Russell M. Nelson either. And, no, unfortunately, neither will any other General Authority, oh say the caliber of Jeffery Holland will inform you of much either. My suggestion, and it's only a suggestion, is, don't read the Book of Mormon for the Big Bang, they didn't know about it either. Read the scientists, the ones who actually study it. I will give you a hint, the universe is expanding and there is astonishingly excellent evidence for that.

There is no science that proves that there was a big bang.

It's not about proof, it's about evidence of what we see, and our using our understanding of physics and math to extrapolate what is more probable. You probably won't be able to fathom that since you have no idea how science actually works. The Book of Mormon is not a good guide for teaching you this either.

[_Philo Sofee]

For Zerinus, Mason is a fellow LDS defender who attempts to calm the ruffled feathers of a deceived priesthood. He fails miserably, because, of course, he doesn't possess half the knowledge that you do. He needs your help. You need to find a way to get your own books into Deseret Book to save the failing and flailing testimonies of so many hundreds of thousands of Mormons worldwide. The Lord NEEDS you friend! His work is overloaded, so he needs that vibrant and light filled testimony of yours to help him fill the world. He can't do it alone, the Lord is merely omniscient. He needs humans who have real knowledge to fill in where he can't.....

Mormonism does not need James Mason to come to it's defence. Perhaps someone needs to tell him that.

Lol! Then ALL of you Mormons ought to just shut up and let God take over and do his thing. NONE of you should be saying ANYTHING......... good luck with that.

[_zerinus]

It's not about proof, it's about evidence of what we see, and our using our understanding of physics and math to extrapolate what is more probable. You probably won't be able to fathom that since you have no idea how science actually works. The Book of Mormon is not a good guide for teaching you this either.

I say it again, there is no science that proves that there was a big bang. Speculation, guesswork, conjecture, and “theories” are not a substitute for truth; and they certainly cannot be used to overturn the truth claims of religion.

[_zerinus]

Lol! Then ALL of you Mormons ought to just shut up and let God take over and do his thing. NONE of you should be saying ANYTHING......... good luck with that.

I am not here to “defend” Mormonism either. I am here to make you look stupid by pointing out the flaws in your arguments.

[_Philo Sofee]

It's not about proof, it's about evidence of what we see, and our using our understanding of physics and math to extrapolate what is more probable. You probably won't be able to fathom that since you have no idea how science actually works. The Book of Mormon is not a good guide for teaching you this either.

I say it again, there is no science that proves that there was a big bang. Speculation, guesswork, conjecture, and “theories” are not a substitute for truth; and they certainly cannot be used to overturn the truth claims of religion.

You have no truth claims, they are all merely assertions. There is no evidence for any of your truth claims, there is physical evidence for scientific claims. It's what makes them scientific. Whether you agree or not is irrelevant. The religious truth claim of a mere 6,000 year old earth is fundamentally overturned with real scientific evidence. You just don't like it. Again, which is irrelevant. The ridiculous idea of casting out devils to heal has been overturned with valid and genuine medicine based on real knowledge of how chemically physical matter interacts with itself. And so on and on and on....

[_Philo Sofee]

Lol! Then ALL of you Mormons ought to just shut up and let God take over and do his thing. NONE of you should be saying ANYTHING......... good luck with that.

I am not here to “defend” Mormonism either. I am here to make you look stupid by pointing out the flaws in your arguments.

Lol! Yes, you just keep on telling yourself that, sucking your thumb at night to help you sleep.....

[_Philo Sofee]

Lol! Then ALL of you Mormons ought to just shut up and let God take over and do his thing. NONE of you should be saying ANYTHING......... good luck with that.

I am not here to “defend” Mormonism either. I am here to make you look stupid by pointing out the flaws in your arguments.

Shall we ask the audience who the illogical and ill informed one is around here, you or me, and let them decide in a true democratic manner? I am more than willing to hear the majority.......

[_tapirrider]

There is no science that proves that there was a big bang.

Pay no attention to Hubble's law, the Book of Mormon is all the truth anyone needs.