You know.... this... THIS is a seriously good question!

[_Craig Paxton]

Remind me again why James Talmage's younger brother died a blind man despite being given multiple priesthood blessings by the full quorum of the 12 and the 1st presidency promising him the full restoration of his sight? Oh that's right...he must not have had enough faith...yeah faith the ultimate escape artist trick.

Never heard this story, got a source?

When James was 11 years old he blinded his younger brother Albert with a pitch fork in a farming accident. After James became an apostle...he and members of the quorum of 12 along with the 1st presidency gave his brother a priesthood blessing promising him that he would be restored to full sight with all of their supposed priesthood power. Talmage's brother Albert died Blind, his sight was never restored. See page 30, right hand column

https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/pdf/137-26-37.pdf

20. John R. Talmage, The Talmage Story: Life of James E. Talmage—Educator, Scientist, Apostle (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1972), 6, for blinding his brother by accident in 1873; James E. Talmage diaries, 22 February 1893, 9 September 1899, 30 May 1928, Lee Library, for his comments about the promises to his brother of restored sight and their non-fulfillment. He became a member of the Quorum of the Twelve in 1911. See Deseret Morning News 2004 Church Almanac, 68.

[_deacon blues]

Remind me again why James Talmage's younger brother died a blind man despite being given multiple priesthood blessings by the full quorum of the 12 and the 1st presidency promising him the full restoration of his sight? Oh that's right...he must not have had enough faith...yeah faith the ultimate escape artist trick.

Never heard this story, got a source?[/quote]

When James was 11 years old he blinded his younger brother Albert with a pitch fork in a farming accident. After James became an apostle...he and members of the quorum of 12 along with the 1st presidency gave his brother a priesthood blessing promising him that he would be restored to full sight with all of their supposed priesthood power. Talmage's brother Albert died Blind, his sight was never restored. See page 30, right hand column

https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/pdf/137-26-37.pdf

20. John R. Talmage, The Talmage Story: Life of James E. Talmage—Educator, Scientist, Apostle (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1972), 6, for blinding his brother by accident in 1873; James E. Talmage diaries, 22 February 1893, 9 September 1899, 30 May 1928, Lee Library, for his comments about the promises to his brother of restored sight and their non-fulfillment. He became a member of the Quorum of the Twelve in 1911. See Deseret Morning News 2004 Church Almanac, 68.[/quote]



A person might argue that these are the exception rather than the rule, but when I see how TBM's/church people try to minimize and hide these kind of things, it is compelling evidence that it happens more than we know. Of course most recent blessings I've heard lately are rather non-committal.

[_I have a question]

Exhibit A

A woman whose life is threatened by heart and lung complications was left permanently disabled after her parents rejected medical treatment and prayed for her recovery instead.

Mariah Walton was born with a small hole in her heart, which could have been repaired in early life, but is now in and out of hospital for her condition, which has become life-threatening.

The 21-year-old and her siblings, from the US state of Idaho, are now campaigning for a change in the law so parents such as theirs who choose to follow “faith healing” can be prosecuted.

“My lungs burn because I can’t get the oxygen I need,” she told local news channel KTVB. “They used to pray over me. The’d say: ‘God’s going to heal you, just have faith’ and all kinds of stuff… I think it’s time to prosecute them”

Ms Walton, who has nine siblings in total, was raised in the Mormon church. She was diagnosed with congenital heart disease aged 18.

Her sister Emily told the broadcaster their parents would tell the children “we needed to pray for Mariah, that she wasn’t growing or doing well, and the evil spirits would leave her”.

Link

[_Nightlion]

If they were true Apostles with a message from heaven, don't you think they'd be wearing themselves out with public speaking? Challenging people and being open for scrutiny?

Since even before June 1979 when I received the apostolic burden. Been hated for it by ALL LDS.

[_RockSlider]

A prophet or healer is only a prophet or miracle worker WHEN the power thereof falls upon him from God. No man is a....power-of-god-slinger... who can just do what he wants.

And when the power of God truly manifests there is no hiding it.

Draw then your own conclusions as to why the power of God is never manifest.

I could not resist the manifestations of The Apocalrock. I was content with six or seven sightings. Then that number doubled most astoundingly. Then doubled again, and again. Who am I to resist God? It has not ended yet.

Pure idol worship. The power of the giant rock idol's power has fallen upon NL, no god-to-man-slinger here, the quartzite god has chosen it's propet, even engraving NL's image among it's many faces.

http://kaiju.wdfiles.com/local--files/with ... 964_01.jpg

[_SteelHead]

Jesus said miracles would follow the apostles. Casting out devils, healing the sick, speaking in tongues. These jokers do none.

[_Nightlion]

A prophet or healer is only a prophet or miracle worker WHEN the power thereof falls upon him from God. No man is a....power-of-god-slinger... who can just do what he wants.

And when the power of God truly manifests there is no hiding it.

Draw then your own conclusions as to why the power of God is never manifest.

I could not resist the manifestations of The Apocalrock. I was content with six or seven sightings. Then that number doubled most astoundingly. Then doubled again, and again. Who am I to resist God? It has not ended yet.

Pure idol worship. The power of the giant rock idol's power has fallen upon NL, no god-to-man-slinger here, the quartzite god has chosen it's propet, even engraving NL's image among it's many faces.

http://kaiju.wdfiles.com/local--files/with ... 964_01.jpg

NO! None of them are me.
See here: https://ibb.co/g6Lr5v
and compare here: https://ibb.co/nJ82sa
Why deny the Art of God? Are not the heavens stretched out at his command? Then why not single mountain prepared to shut the mouth of atheism?

[_RockSlider]

NO! None of them are me.

WHAT just in the last week it seems here on the board you said your image was there.

[_SteelHead]

Nl,
I see faces in the texture patterns on my ceiling. Is god talking to me?


Have you considered talking to a mental health professional?

[_Nightlion]

Nl,
I see faces in the texture patterns on my ceiling. Is god talking to me?


Have you considered talking to a mental health professional?

No. Anyone looking for a face will see one. We all know that. When you see a wonderfully crafted work of art does that cause you such envy that you deny its existence and ridicule anyone who appreciates it. YES that is what is going on here.