Bof Mormon translation - Des News still perpetuates the lie.

[_I have a question]

Check the image they have chosen to accompany Peterson's latest straw grasp.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8656 ... guage.html

The content of the article itself is not worth commenting on.

[_tapirrider]

Is the English Book of Mormon written in Joseph Smith's spoken language?

It could be. Written and spoken aren't necessarily the same. The comparison of the Book of Mormon to Joseph Smith's writings might not show what was really going on.

Elements of a much older form of English were found to be spoken in New England, published in 1848.

Dictionary of Americanisms, A Glossary of Words and Phrases, Usually Regarded as Peculiar to the United States, by John Russell Bartlett, 1848, pages iii-iv
https://books.google.com/books?id=gWUPA ... &q&f=false

"On comparing these familiar words with the provincial and colloquial language of the northern counties of England, a most striking resemblance appeared, not only in the words commonly regarded as peculiar to New England, but in the dialectical pronunciation of certain words, and in the general tone and accent. In fact, it may be said, without exaggeration, that nine tenths of the colloquial peculiarities of New England are derived directly from Great Britain; and that they are now provincial in those parts from which the early colonists emigrated, or are to be found in the writings of well accredited authors of the period when that emigration took place."

"It may be insisted, therefore, that the idiom of New England is as pure English, taken as a whole, as was spoken in England at the period when these colonies were settled."

[_candygal]

Just an off hand question. Is Peterson and Scott Lloyd great friends. Does one really want to claim the other as a friend...do they lunch??

[_DoubtingThomas]

Check the image they have chosen to accompany Peterson's latest straw grasp.

I think artists are expressing that Smith translated the Book of Mormon, Art is art, not a history course or a museum. It doesn't bother me.

Christianity has the same problem too, the cross for example. It is not true that Jesus carried is huge cross, it is impossible.

Other things bother me, not the art. Let's not give ammo to the apologists, the backfire effect is real.

[_I have a question]

Check the image they have chosen to accompany Peterson's latest straw grasp.

I think artists are expressing that Smith translated the Book of Mormon, Art is art, not a history course or a museum. It doesn't bother me.

Christianity has the same problem too, the cross for example. It is not true that Jesus carried is huge cross, it is impossible.

Other things bother me, not the art.

I get that.
But Deseret News could have chosen any image to accompany an article about the translation of the Book of Mormon - they chose one that doesn't reflect how it was actually translated. It's deliberate.

[_Shulem]

Not trying to change the subject, but how would church artists even begin to depict Joseph Smith translating the Egyptian papyrus into the Book of Abraham? The first time Joseph Smith translated was when he retired with some characters received from Chandler, the man who sold him the papyrus and mummies.

How would the church depict Joseph Smith translating Chandler's characters? And later, how would the church depict him translating the papyrus? Would the Alphabet & Grammar be on the table along with the homemade Kirtland papers used for deciphering Egyptian? Some of those very papers were written in the prophet's own hand. Clearly, hard evidence to indicate props for an artist's faithful rendition.

So far, the church and its army of artists have been cowards when it comes to taking on that particular project. Such is the result of a Mormon testimony because it essentially turns a person into a coward when it comes to facing the real truth. The LDS church is led by cowards and the membership is a body of cowardice.

[_cwald]

It is just another example of the blatant dishonesty of the church corporation.

[_Shulem]

I think artists are expressing that Smith translated the Book of Mormon, Art is art, not a history course or a museum. It doesn't bother me.

Since when is a piece of artwork a "history course" in itself? It's not a history course, merely what should be a realistic rendition of the facts as best understood by the person painting them. Viewers are entitled to see art that depicts the facts. After all, the church wants everyone to pay 10% of their income. The Book of Mormon translation serves as an advertisement for the church --a false advertisement too.

Would you pony up 10% of your income to the man who fabricated the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3? Would you give him your house? Would you give him your wife too? And all that you have?

[_grindael]

Such theories have recently been challenged by the extraordinary ongoing research of linguists Royal Skousen and Stanford Carmac...

I didn't know his first name... gee you learn something new every day... But someone should report the typo in his last name to the Des News...

[_Dr Exiled]

Incidentally, did the idea of a curtain between Joseph and the "plates" on the one side and the scribe on the other side come from Anthon's recollection of his meeting with Martin Harris or Martin Harris directly or from somewhere else?