Nobody is born with knowledge of a fact. Faith is not fact based. Faith is a need to believe. Men are given weakness such that they will then feel the need to believe. When this need is applied in great faith having a greater need than what satisfies the hypocrites it might happen that someone familiar with Christianity will come unto Christ with full purpose of heart. This means that one is willing to lay down his life in this world, forsaking the world for a better kingdom, the kingdom of God.
Having done all to repent of THIS WORLD and forsaking it for a better kingdom the FACT of God can be realized in the promised baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost. This fact when wrought down upon a living soul transforms the entirety of it from death to life with Christ in God. One becomes alive to God and has a perfect knowledge of God's power, having been made a new creature by the handiwork of God upon his person. Nothing of mere mind can be so positively known as the FACT than that God is true after having been truly born again.
And that's it. Everything else can be lumped into speculations. We know in part and prophecy in part about everything else. And whether this or that is thus or so is of no consequence against the knowledge of God.
The greatest problem with religion today is that NOBODY is coming unto Christ as commanded. None are willing to lay down their lives as commanded so that they might get the experience that proves God to them. Such can only continue in speculations. And as our old friend used to say: Weak Sauce.
What can be justified by the precise doctrine of being truly born again is a validation that something is of God. The Book of Mormon is the single greatest treatise on the FACT of the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost. Its treatment throughout its generations is perfectly consistent to the known experience of the one TRUE FACT. The origins of Mormonism began with this thread which is now lost to it.
This is why so many Great Speculators become apostate. They have no foundation in THE FACT at all.
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As i have stated before- you are not far from the true kingdom which is Christ in you and the HS controlling your thoughts, words and actions 24/7.
You know Faith is "gift" , a needed gift from the Father who draws those who are His close to Him , gifting Faith on them, watching them come to Christ Jesus with all that they are and do- proclaiming by the HS that jesus is lord to the glory of God the Father. a sinner saved by grace! nothing else is necessary.
by the way toss that Book of Mormon -you know it is not the greatest testament /witness of jesus! and Joseph Smith had no born again come unto christ expedience if you believe the FV was it. after the FV , J led s selfcentered life thus no coming unto christ for him.
k
You know Faith is "gift" , a needed gift from the Father who draws those who are His close to Him , gifting Faith on them, watching them come to Christ Jesus with all that they are and do- proclaiming by the HS that jesus is lord to the glory of God the Father. a sinner saved by grace! nothing else is necessary.
by the way toss that Book of Mormon -you know it is not the greatest testament /witness of jesus! and Joseph Smith had no born again come unto christ expedience if you believe the FV was it. after the FV , J led s selfcentered life thus no coming unto christ for him.
k
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kairos wrote:As i have stated before- you are not far from the true kingdom which is Christ in you and the HS controlling your thoughts, words and actions 24/7.
You know Faith is "gift" , a needed gift from the Father who draws those who are His close to Him , gifting Faith on them, watching them come to Christ Jesus with all that they are and do- proclaiming by the HS that Jesus is lord to the glory of God the Father. a sinner saved by grace! nothing else is necessary.
by the way toss that Book of Mormon -you know it is not the greatest testament /witness of Jesus! and Joseph Smith had no born again come unto Christ expedience if you believe the FV was it. after the FV , J led s selfcentered life thus no coming unto Christ for him.
k
An example below of anointed true Worship
https://youtu.be/6LpUUb9LN1Q
Justice = Getting what you deserve
Mercy = Not getting what you deserve
Grace = Getting what you can never deserve
Mercy = Not getting what you deserve
Grace = Getting what you can never deserve
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Nightlion wrote:Nobody is born with knowledge of a fact. Faith is not fact based. Faith is a need to believe.
No one is born with a knowledge of any particular faith or religious viewpoint, either, right?
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kairos wrote:As i have stated before- you are not far from the true kingdom which is Christ in you and the HS controlling your thoughts, words and actions 24/7.
You know Faith is "gift" , a needed gift from the Father who draws those who are His close to Him , gifting Faith on them, watching them come to Christ Jesus with all that they are and do- proclaiming by the HS that Jesus is lord to the glory of God the Father. a sinner saved by grace! nothing else is necessary.
by the way toss that Book of Mormon -you know it is not the greatest testament /witness of Jesus! and Joseph Smith had no born again come unto Christ expedience if you believe the FV was it. after the FV , J led s selfcentered life thus no coming unto Christ for him.
k
I suspect that the Denver Snuffer and Rob Smith STEAMROLLER MINISTRIES will eventually become much like the Born Again groupie doopie religion. Both will...ACT AS IF...'till the kingdom comes and they are all left to burn with the heap of humanity, having NEVER truly forsaken the world. They ARE the world in spades and the epitome of arrogance and wicked pride. Emotional horse crap. Both tell the world what's up with God. Both are clueless though precisely what people will take. A FAKE consensus not willing to obey what Jesus commanded.
If you knew what it's like to come unto Christ and be born of him and not by accepting the hypocrite consensus you could never condemn the Book of Mormon. If you ever happened to read it.
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Re: The Only Fact About True Religion That is definitely KNO
Kairos, were do you get this bologna idea that the Holy Spirits CONTROLS everything you think do and say? Sound like demon possession to me. What have you given yourself up too man? There is ZERO scripture to even suggest such a thing.
I have been in Christ Jesus' name for forty-seven+ years and I can confidently say NOBODY has brought forth fruits of the Spirit better than I have during that time. All those truly born of God are prophets that ought to be judged by their fruits.
And if singing is IT, I have written over fifty guitar worship songs, and 32 psalms types (just sung with no instrumentation) some from exact scripture text and some with original words, and a two act musical play about the return of the Ten Lost Tribes from the North that is very complex, often two or three and once even four counter melodies of about forty songs total. Runs near two hours long.
You are in no position to 'tell me 'bout the rabbits' George.
I have been in Christ Jesus' name for forty-seven+ years and I can confidently say NOBODY has brought forth fruits of the Spirit better than I have during that time. All those truly born of God are prophets that ought to be judged by their fruits.
And if singing is IT, I have written over fifty guitar worship songs, and 32 psalms types (just sung with no instrumentation) some from exact scripture text and some with original words, and a two act musical play about the return of the Ten Lost Tribes from the North that is very complex, often two or three and once even four counter melodies of about forty songs total. Runs near two hours long.
You are in no position to 'tell me 'bout the rabbits' George.
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https://www.docdroid.net/KDt8RNP/the-apocalrock-manifesto.pdf
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Re: The Only Fact About True Religion That is definitely KNO
What in the world does "anointed true Worship" mean? I see a nicely done stage presentation where people were singing about God or whatever. They were super into it.
Cool.
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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.