did god create the distinctions between the races?

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Re: did god create the distinctions between the races?

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The whole notion of a covenanted, chosen people seems to share the same roots of racism: feeling superior as a group to others.
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sock puppet wrote:The whole notion of a covenanted, chosen people seems to share the same roots of racism: feeling superior as a group to others.


Especially as the Nephites thought that Covenanted, Chosen people were denoted by a white skin.
A striking parallel to what people thought during Joseph Smiths era.
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Find me a successful religion whose adherents believe that God favor's some race other than the majority of the believers in that religion.
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Fence Sitter wrote:Find me a successful religion whose adherents believe that God favor's some other race other than the majority of the believers in that religion.


Quite right. Religions are, in and of themselves, supremacist organisations. And they want the freedom to continue to practice their particular creed of supremacy.
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JLHPROF wrote:If you don't believe in evolution and science, there would have to be another explanation. God is as good a non-scientific explanation as any.

In Joseph's Smith day many believed it had to be from God. They believed Cain was cursed with a black skin, and Indians was a hot topic of how they got to the America's after a world covering flood. Many speculated they were a lost tribe of Israel. Funny how their completely ignorant speculations were answered by the Book of Mormon in support of those speculations. Speculations today we know are very wrong. That's some good evidence the origins of the Book of Mormon are not ancient, but less then 200 years.
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God didn't say or do anything. Humans said we shouldn't mix those with very active melanocytes with those with less active melanocytes. Those with with very good ultraviolet radiation protection should not mix with those who have to use FPS50. But in reality. God blessed those with dark skin with great ultraviolet radiation protection. Melanin in skin protects the layer that under goes mitosis. I've seen so many discussions about race and the Mormon priesthood and I've never seen anyone, especially Mormons discuss the anatomy and physiology of the body; why those from Africa have very good ultraviolet protection - dark skin.
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sock puppet wrote:The whole notion of a covenanted, chosen people seems to share the same roots of racism: feeling superior as a group to others.


Except that Peter's vision in connection with the visit from Cornelius taught that every person could become part of the covenant people, by exercising free will to do so. Regardless of race.
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JLHPROF wrote:If you believe in evolution and science, no. You would believe they are a natural result.

Unless you believe that an evolutionary process is a constant tool used by God on all planets that have sustained life.

What we refer to as races is the result of genetic variance in sequestered populations and favorable circumstances that allow for recessive genetic traits to thrive (pale skin).
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Yahoo Bot wrote:
sock puppet wrote:The whole notion of a covenanted, chosen people seems to share the same roots of racism: feeling superior as a group to others.


Except that Peter's vision in connection with the visit from Cornelius taught that every person could become part of the covenant people, by exercising free will to do so. Regardless of race.


Until Joseph or Brigham came around.
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