Over/Under on the next apostle?

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Re: Over/Under on the next apostle?

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Craig Paxton wrote:
Here's the problem facing those who are tasked with extending a calling to the next apostle...there is an almost undetectable under current taking place within the church. Members have become sensitive to the fact that all of the apostles are rich white guys. I think we are past the time when we can safely say that no believer will rise an eyebrow if yet another white guy gets called. This subtle awareness taking place is a small fissure within the church. Members are becoming sensitive and aware of the message being sent by the all white leadership church to a culturally and ethically diverse world. And they are quietly embarrassed by the lack of diversity among the twelve.

Will this be enough to influence those who are choosing the next man? Maybe, maybe not. But I'm going to guess that it will be on their minds as they make this choice. But I'm going to also guess that their core bias and deeply held racist, ethnocentric viewpoints will prevail. We'll get another white guy...I mean come on, these guys can't risk putting a brown or black man into the apostleship who could possibly outlive others and become Prophet of the church could they...that would be a disaster right?


You raise a great point...if they pick a person of color, they will need to be older than Bendar...whom will most likely be a prophet for 15 or 20 years down the road.
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Re: Over/Under on the next apostle?

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Time for a McConkie?

Or maybe just a Dreamer- an undocumented alien from Africa -oh sorry Ob#*a is not LDS.
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Markk wrote:You raise a great point...if they pick a person of color, they will need to be older than Bendar...whom will most likely be a prophet for 15 or 20 years down the road.

bendar?
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It will be Larry W. Gibbons, formerly of Dallas, Texas. A Physician and current member of the 2nd Quorum of 70.
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Re: Over/Under on the next apostle?

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SuperDell wrote:It will be Larry W. Gibbons, formerly of Dallas, Texas. A Physician and current member of the 2nd Quorum of 70.


Ugh. Larry and I were in the same ward. I sat in priesthood with him and he was my stake president for years.

And now look at me, a son of perdition!

:lol:
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Re: Over/Under on the next apostle?

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Shulem wrote:
SuperDell wrote:It will be Larry W. Gibbons, formerly of Dallas, Texas. A Physician and current member of the 2nd Quorum of 70.


Ugh. Larry and I were in the same ward. I sat in priesthood with him and he was my stake president for years.

And now look at me, a son of perdition!

:lol:


Then you probably know his wonderful kids.
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Re: Over/Under on the next apostle?

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Markk wrote:
Craig Paxton wrote:
Here's the problem facing those who are tasked with extending a calling to the next apostle...there is an almost undetectable under current taking place within the church. Members have become sensitive to the fact that all of the apostles are rich white guys. I think we are past the time when we can safely say that no believer will rise an eyebrow if yet another white guy gets called. This subtle awareness taking place is a small fissure within the church. Members are becoming sensitive and aware of the message being sent by the all white leadership church to a culturally and ethically diverse world. And they are quietly embarrassed by the lack of diversity among the twelve.

Will this be enough to influence those who are choosing the next man? Maybe, maybe not. But I'm going to guess that it will be on their minds as they make this choice. But I'm going to also guess that their core bias and deeply held racist, ethnocentric viewpoints will prevail. We'll get another white guy...I mean come on, these guys can't risk putting a brown or black man into the apostleship who could possibly outlive others and become Prophet of the church could they...that would be a disaster right?


You raise a great point...if they pick a person of color, they will need to be older than Bendar...whom will most likely be a prophet for 15 or 20 years down the road.


Yes I agree, according to an actuarial average life span projection David, heaven help us all, Bednar will have a major impact on Mormonism's future...which in the long run will quicken its ultimate implosion into a smaller religion having less and less influence in Utah and world society for years to come.

Bednar, Bednar he's our man if David can't do it no one can...

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