deacon blues wrote:One saving grace of the Gospels is that some of the difficult things that Jesus says in them can be (and probably should) be taken metaphorically. His speech about faith moving mountains with the faith of a mustard seed was understood literally by whoever wrote the Book of Mormon (see Ether 12:30), and is taken literally by many L.D.S., but there are other ways to understand it, Including:
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/arti ... mountains/I like the message that we don't need a lot of faith, just a little- like a mustard seed.
I also like the sentence:"There's no example in the scriptures of mountains disappearing because someone had faith."........ obviously written by a non-Mormon.
I'm not sure that this writer gets faith right, or that Mormonism gets it wrong, but I have enjoyed getting out from under the little tent of correlated lessons, and finding a bigger tent is still there.
LOL Holy Jiminy Crap fella, you got the slightest idea how deep the condemnation resting atop all Mormons actually is? And you think such folks ought to be able to move a mountain lacking the faith even to obey Christ's gospel to begin with? Jesus will return and when his feet touch the Mount of Olives it will divide North and South and a great valley will appear. That ought to shave like a razor all that is presently Jerusalem.
Zechariah 14:4
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Rev. 6: 14
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
Jerimiah 4:19
19 ¶ My bowels, my bowels! I am pained at my very heart; my heart maketh a noise in me; I cannot hold my peace, because thou hast heard, O my soul, the sound of the trumpet, the alarm of war.
20 Destruction upon destruction is cried; for the whole land is spoiled: suddenly are my tents spoiled, and my curtains in a moment.
21 How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet?
22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do cevil, but to do good they have no knowledge.
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.
27 For thus hath the Lord said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full aend.
28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black: because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not arepent, neither will I turn back from it.
29 The whole city shall flee for the noise of the horsemen and bowmen; they shall go into thickets, and climb up upon the rocks: every city shall be forsaken, and not a man dwell therein.
30 And when thou art spoiled, what wilt thou do? Though thou clothest thyself with crimson, though thou deckest thee with ornaments of gold, though thou bentest thy face with painting, in vain shalt thou make thyself fair; thy clovers will despise thee, they will seek thy life.
31 For I have heard a voice as of a woman in travail, and the anguish as of her that bringeth forth her first child, the voice of the daughter of Zion, that bewaileth herself, that spreadeth her hands, saying, Woe is me now! for my soul is wearied because of murderers.
Anyway, as I thought about this, I thought about the Book of Mormon, the scripture where faith actually moves mountains. (Ether 12:30)
