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I was poking around on the internet looking for information about Tom Christofferson after listening to his Mormon Stories interviews, when I came upon this interesting youtube video of a talk by Elder Christofferson. It is billed as a "faith promoting story" in the description, but appears to be an account, offered in some conference or leadership meeting, of the mundane process by which the age of eligibility for a mission was changed. It is interesting, because Christofferson presents this as an example of divine inspiration.

See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoLpr2BU2yU

You have to listen very carefully, as the quality of the recording is not that good, unfortunately. I would apologize, but I am not the one who recorded it or shared it. I am just bringing this interesting tidbit to your attention.

What is its value? Well, it has already been noted elsewhere that President Eyring got very teary in his description of a similar scenario. A business meeting brought about a change in policy, and . . . President Eyring is blubbering about it as though it were an angelic visitation or something!

So, there you have it. It is interesting to watch the evolution of institutional charisma in the LDS Church.

Pretty amazing how he can call a normal deliberative process that any organization does "revelation" and still have a straight face. He should have stopped with the first explanation that drew the Mormon laughter because that is what really happened.

Christopherson has a lot to learn on selling this nonsense, though. Eyring would have teared up as he explained when they reviewed the pie chart and statistical analyses. Surely these charts were from the Lord .....

I am surprised they have not announced a revelation selling shares in the City Creek Mall or mosquito infested swamp land in Florida.

The more I think about this the more I loath Eyring and those who use emotion as a church weapon in order to concoct "revelation" out of the mundane.

The LDS religion makes business decisions and calls them revelation. What a joke. What a laugh. Modern Mormonism is an obvious spoof. It’s going to take everything just to hold on to the members they got. Missionary work is finished. The work is done. The harvest is over. Now we get to gleefully sit back and watch the great Mormon era of decline as the church bleeds its members and resources. The apostles are silly old fools making stuff up to flatter themselves. It’s like watching a circus with clowns and all. What a joke. Hey Tommy, how about another story about a poor widow or little Jimmy’s Christmas train set?

Kishkumen wrote:I was poking around on the internet looking for information about Tom Christofferson after listening to his Mormon Stories interviews, when I came upon this interesting youtube video of a talk by Elder Christofferson. It is billed as a "faith promoting story" in the description, but appears to be an account, offered in some conference or leadership meeting, of the mundane process by which the age of eligibility for a mission was changed. It is interesting, because Christofferson presents this as an example of divine inspiration.

See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoLpr2BU2yU

You have to listen very carefully, as the quality of the recording is not that good, unfortunately. I would apologize, but I am not the one who recorded it or shared it. I am just bringing this interesting tidbit to your attention.

What is its value? Well, it has already been noted elsewhere that President Eyring got very teary in his description of a similar scenario. A business meeting brought about a change in policy, and . . . President Eyring is blubbering about it as though it were an angelic visitation or something!

So, there you have it. It is interesting to watch the evolution of institutional charisma in the LDS Church.

Your phrase "Evolution of institutional charisma" is apt. From a first prophet dictating God's words, it has evolved to revelation by committee. Charisma refers to the gifts of the Spirit, and what a what a wonderful gift committees can be. For persons like the apostles, who already believe, it is a strong position, especially in our 21st century reality.

One telling part of the revelatory evolution is Joseph revising certain revelations in the Book of Commandments.

A second telling part of the evolution occurred when Wilford Woodruff's and John Taylor's "revelations" of the late 19th century, were dismissed in favor of manifestos and official declarations.

Does a God who values truth want this inconsistent and shifting context to be taught and discussed? I would think so.

Maybe it is grand revelation, designed to help slow the tide of the Church and contribute to people uncovering the illusion--kind of like the internet.

Less converts, less missionaries, more missionaries falling victim to disillusionment and heading home early. Maybe in the long run this revelation is in place to make a mockery of the whole enterprise.

Hmmm, it seems I and my colleagues have multiple revelations every day at work. Who knew.

Is this a significant development?

I have a question wrote:Hmmm, it seems I and my colleagues have multiple revelations every day at work. Who knew.

LOL