The few, the proud, the Maroons.

[_Dantana]

This post was intended to be a response for another thread, but then I couldn't re-locate said thread.

Morm's will always have as a last line defense offense, (iveness) when they fall back to the keep, of - Many called, few chosen. 'I don't care that the church is shrinking, we are the elite, it's all in gods plan'... Right. How arrogant and annoying. Everyone's fav. board prophet N.L. has played it to it's extreme with his church of one. Right.

Google says 100 billion (est.) humans have lived on this planet. Couple that with the cast out pre-earth hooligans.... 150 billion souls. And your little band of Brighamites are the only chosen few. Right.

[_JLHPROF]

Ok, so you don't believe in Mormonism. And you find the arrogance of a small percentage of the earths population being chosen annoying. That's fine.

I don't see how those beliefs are a "last line" when falling back. It's a basic belief well established in Mormon teachings that in the end at the return of Christ there will be a very small group living his gospel.

[_RockSlider]

It's a basic belief well established in Mormon teachings that in the end at the return of Christ there will be a very small group living his gospel.

And you believe you will be one of those I assume?

[_Dantana]

Ok, so you don't believe in Mormonism.
And you find the arrogance of a small percentage of the earths population being chosen annoying. That's fine.

I don't see how those beliefs are a "last line" when falling back.
It's a basic belief well established in Mormon teachings that in the end at the return of Christ there will be a very small group living his gospel.

Ah well, I was mostly just annoyed at N.L.'s latest line of bull___, in another thread, and took it out on Morms.

Anyway, since you brought it up, Yeah I do think it's arrogant to consider yourselves the chosen few. And it does seem like a bit of a last line defense, when confronted with insurmountable evidence eviscerating your cause, to resort to citing a self promoting scripture that declares your god the proper one and he's only taking a couple.

[_krose]

It's a basic belief well established in Mormon teachings that in the end at the return of Christ there will be a very small group living his gospel.

Could you please flesh this out a bit, provide a few details of these prophecies?

[_I have a question]

I don't see how those beliefs are a "last line" when falling back. It's a basic belief well established in Mormon teachings that in the end at the return of Christ there will be a very small group living his gospel.

Only the elite invested in Bernie Madoff. They were very sure of themselves and their choice. They were smarter than the masses. Until they weren’t.

[_sunstoned]

The fact is that members of the LDS church, past and present make up only a minuscule percentage of the earths population. These numbers confirm to me that the LDS church is a failed proposition. There is no rock rolling forward that will fill up the earth. In fact, the most current figures say the church is shrinking. The logical conclusion for me is that god is a poor manager. He has tried twice to establish is kingdom, and came up short both times.

[_Nightlion]

I guess I am inspired enough to snuff out this bunk. Was wondering who the red people were.

Okay, pal. The Lord has created worlds without number. Let's say that is only ten billion. And let's imagine that only people referred to in scripture as true saints and prophets get saved. So......ten billion times possibly only a couple of million. That's if the City of Enoch and the Lost Ten Tribes are not counted. If counted there might be ten millions.

So that's 20,000,000,000,000,000,000* if only counting a couple of million.
And its 100,000,000,000,000,000,000* if we include the other two camps.

Now, of all those saved, not all will be exalted to the continuation of the seeds. Probably only a enough to continue 10 billion new worlds. That would require 20 billion Adam and Eves respectively.

The way the world conducts itself with a devil may care attitude that utterly ignores the gospel and would never forsake the world for an acceptable sacrifice to get in with Christ and God proves true what Jesus said about 'few there be that find it'.

You, Tana, could not care less. So what's the problem. Why shout about being left behind. You do not love God. So just forget about it.

*Check my math.

[_moksha]

Years ago on the old FAIR board, there was a poster who was knowledgeable about the subject of organizational psychology. Her contention was that all new organizations give their product hype to establish a demand for it. Some might use slogans such as "new and improved", "It's the real thing", "Breakfast of Champions, or even "Snap, Crackle, Pop".

So it should come as no surprise if the early Mormons came up with superlatives such as their book being truer or their people being more righteous than anyone else.

Just be glad they did not declare themselves to be "finger licking good".

[_Dantana]

I guess I am inspired enough to snuff out this bunk. Was wondering who the red people were.

Okay, pal. The Lord has created worlds without number. Let's say that is only ten billion. And let's imagine that only people referred to in scripture as true saints and prophets get saved. So......ten billion times possibly only a couple of million. That's if the City of Enoch and the Lost Ten Tribes are not counted. If counted there might be ten millions.

So that's 20,000,000,000,000,000,000* if only counting a couple of million.
And its 100,000,000,000,000,000,000* if we include the other two camps.

Now, of all those saved, not all will be exalted to the continuation of the seeds. Probably only a enough to continue 10 billion new worlds. That would require 20 billion Adam and Eves respectively.

The way the world conducts itself with a devil may care attitude that utterly ignores the gospel and would never forsake the world for an acceptable sacrifice to get in with Christ and God proves true what Jesus said about 'few there be that find it'.

You, Tana, could not care less. So what's the problem. Why shout about being left behind. You do not love God. So just forget about it.

*Check my math.

Yeah well, you aren't addressing the issue of 'arrogance'. You are just increasing the numbers. The ratios remain the same. Most are culls, you and your few (relatively speaking) are the chosen elite. Because it says somewhere in your self witnessing holy scrolls that few will be selected, you now have licence to ignore facts and just plain common sense. Common sense says, the holy scroll that declares 'few are chosen', is more likely to have been written by men intent on manipulation - and less likely to be the cosmology that 99.99999999999% of souls are culls.