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Council of the fifity minutes
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:43 pm
by _Markk
Anyone gone through these yet, I just stumbled across this link?
http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/articl ... ty-minutes
Re: Council of the fifity minutes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:23 pm
by _Philo Sofee
Yes, and what the description on the church's site doesn't say is far more important and consequential than what they do say. This is the volume that shows with actual evidence from the brethren themselves, that they are traitors to the Constitution (all the while giving public lip service to it to cover their butts). Secretly they anointed each other as kings over the world, literal kings, seeking to overthrow the forms of government in the world, because, of course, God told em to (secretly you see, God didn't want to get caught at it either). Their hypocrisy is fully exposed in this astonishing volume. Now it's true, they certainly also show they were looking for other places to settle, of course. Their persecution was far and away more self imposed than the wickedness of the Gentiles against them and God. The Gentiles were trying to save the Constitution from being overthrown, the Brethren were the tyrants getting rid of the Constitution.
Re: Council of the fifity minutes
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:37 pm
by _Maksutov
Philo Sofee wrote:Yes, and what the description on the church's site doesn't say is far more important and consequential than what they do say. This is the volume that shows with actual evidence from the brethren themselves, that they are traitors to the Constitution (all the while giving public lip service to it to cover their butts). Secretly they anointed each other as kings over the world, literal kings, seeking to overthrow the forms of government in the world, because, of course, God told em to (secretly you see, God didn't want to get caught at it either). Their hypocrisy is fully exposed in this astonishing volume. Now it's true, they certainly also show they were looking for other places to settle, of course. Their persecution was far and away more self imposed than the wickedness of the Gentiles against them and God. The Gentiles were trying to save the Constitution from being overthrown, the Brethren were the tyrants getting rid of the Constitution.
"Theodemocracy". Mormon Dominionism, I'd say, without Calvin.
Yes, the members of the YTFIF were traitors. Many received pardons for sedition at the end of the First American Civil War, i.e., the Utah War. Check Bigler and Bagley's book.
Re: Council of the fifity minutes
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:33 am
by _deacon blues
Yes. It's interesting to compare this COF Minutes with the official "History of the Church." The "Minutes" are obviously source material for the "History", but edited to avoid the odor of treason.

Re: Council of the fifity minutes
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:33 pm
by _Stem
Philo Sofee wrote:Yes, and what the description on the church's site doesn't say is far more important and consequential than what they do say. This is the volume that shows with actual evidence from the brethren themselves, that they are traitors to the Constitution (all the while giving public lip service to it to cover their butts). Secretly they anointed each other as kings over the world, literal kings, seeking to overthrow the forms of government in the world, because, of course, God told em to (secretly you see, God didn't want to get caught at it either). Their hypocrisy is fully exposed in this astonishing volume. Now it's true, they certainly also show they were looking for other places to settle, of course. Their persecution was far and away more self imposed than the wickedness of the Gentiles against them and God. The Gentiles were trying to save the Constitution from being overthrown, the Brethren were the tyrants getting rid of the Constitution.
I always enjoy the ironies that amount each summer as members get all testifiable about how the US is so divine, and it was made for the Church.