LDS Standard Operation Procedure: Blame the Victim

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LDS Standard Operation Procedure: Blame the Victim

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Lindsey Park posted this a few minutes ago.

The rumors I heard turned out to be true and the implications are sending chills through my bones.

Everyone should be very upset. They released her private church record!

Based on conversations with the survivor and those close to her, I can confirm that I was told that within hours of these accusations coming to light, the church sent men to depose the survivor's family on her character. I believe those reports were given to Greg Bishop, so he was able to prepare his docs slandering the victim, and I'm hearing multiple reports that her name was released to press agencies, unredacted by the church, which is a major breech of privacy. Tune into KUTV news tonight


.... the church lawyers put together a massive dossier the accuser that included her criminal record, past accusations and church records...


https://m.Facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10213620200730716&id=1574530763

Update. Here is the article

http://kutv.com/news/local/exclusive-documents-reveal-how-the-lds-church-responded-to-mtc-sex-scandal
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Re: LDS Standard Operation Procedure: Blame the Victim

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Mormon leaks Ryan McKnight weighs in.

Words cannot describe how I felt when no less then four reporters called me on Tuesday morning (the day after the leak) asking me to go on the record about the victim and that the church had given them her name.

This was a betrayal that I thought even the church was not capable of.

I will share more in the coming days. I want to see how the reporting fleshes out.

Kudos to KUTV for tackling this angle.
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Re: LDS Standard Operation Procedure: Blame the Victim

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Bill Reel Wrote:
Please take ten minutes to understand this development. This places Mormonism and its leaders as unethical and borderline evil.


Ten PM tonight on KUTV. Newly covered documents paint the LDS Church as deeply unethical.

After having the audio and knowing there was a second victim with allegations (a.k.a. knowing the victim was almost assuredly telling the truth and Joseph Bishop was a sex abuser), The Church did the following

1.) gave her actual name to news agencies along with any negative information that had on her (deeply unethical to release the actual name of a victim/alleged victim

2.) Supplied Joseph Bishop's (The abuser's) son (who is a lawyer) a dossier of collected negative information they had on her in order to have him be the front man on a smear campaign. (Deeply wrong and frankly evil)

3.) sent Church cronies out to collect additional negative information on her by interviewing family, friends, etc... (sadly also deeply unethical knowing she was telling the truth)

Still think your Church is good and wholesome.... open your eyes folks, this machine is deceptive and deeply unethical.

Want to better understand this whole story and the deeply unethical cover-up by Church leaders. Than take 2 hours to understand this story by listening to Radio Free Mormon's

Church Sex Scandal Cover-up:
In Radio Free Mormon fashion, RFM dissect the Church Sex Abuse Scandal coverup like a legal case. He shows the incredible evidence that the Joseph Layton Bishop Jr. case was an attempted cover-up by the Church throughout the entire event.

https://radiofreemormon.org/…/radio-free-mormon-28-church-…/

http://kutv.com/…/exclusive-documents-reveal-how-the-lds-ch…


I wonder if this will get Bill excommunicated?
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Re: LDS Standard Operation Procedure: Blame the Victim

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The comment by KUTV about "a ruthless corporation" trying to silence and smear the victim was most interesting.

Not your typical Good Friday story. But from now on there should be a bishop's interview warning that all information you reveal can and will be used against you if at the Church's discretion.
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Re: LDS Standard Operation Procedure: Blame the Victim

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This shocks me. I knew TSCC was at it's heart a for profit corporation. But I thought there were some lines it wouldn't cross. I guess I was wrong.
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From the KUTV article...
(KUTV) - On March 20th, as a sexual assault scandal was exploding around former Missionary Training Center President Joseph Bishop, his son, and attorney Greg Bishop sent an email to 2News unsolicited.

In the email, he unspools a 5-page dossier about the past of the woman who had accused his father of rape.


Does anyone know where the law stands on an attorney sending privileged information to the press?
Does anyone know where the law stands on releasing the privately held Church record of the victim?
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Based on conversations with the survivor and those close to her, I can confirm that I was told that within hours of these accusations coming to light, the church sent men to depose the survivor's family on her character.


They sent ‘the boys’ round to intimidate her family...

I’m staggered.
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But, you know, the Church doesn’t really have the resources available to investigate these sorts of things.
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Re: LDS Standard Operation Procedure: Blame the Victim

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Compare the treatment of this LDS woman who had an affair with a non-member years earlier with Joseph L. Bishop receiving no sanctions whatsoever.

She wanted to confess to her Bishop but was told it would follow her for the rest of her life in the Church's records, but with Joseph L. Bishop charity covers a multitude of sins.

She has a lot of reason to be worried about the LDS Church keeping that record of her confession on her to be used against her at any moment. If she ever ended up in a situation similar to the one that Bishop's victims are in they apparently have no qualms with leaking it to news agencies or to the lawyers and family of the perpetrator. That's a scary thought for any Mormon even considering telling their Bishop or ecclesiastical leaders anything. The LDS Church will protect confessions from pedophiles under privilege but it has no qualms with leaking interviews and member records of victims.

reflexzero the Church has no resources to investigate because all its resources are engaged in writing up NDAs or smearing victims, apparently.
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Re: LDS Standard Operation Procedure: Blame the Victim

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sunstoned wrote:This shocks me. I knew TSCC was at it's heart a for profit corporation. But I thought there were some lines it wouldn't cross. I guess I was wrong.

I feel the way I did when I found out about so many things 10 years ago..sick again.
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