Two new Non-white Apostles - Prepare for the 2nd Coming.

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Re: Two new Non-white Apostles - Prepare for the 2nd Coming.

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This was the same Elder Gong that was briefing the Q15 on the news and confirmed homosexuals?
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reflexzero wrote:This was the same Elder Gong that was briefing the Q15 on the news and confirmed homosexuals?


Amongst other things...
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865 ... aders.html

If you think these two are agents for change, you’re going to be sadly disappointed.
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Called it
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Re: Two new Non-white Apostles - Prepare for the 2nd Coming.

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I am puzzled in what possible way does the fellow from Brazil not qualify as as white as anybody else?
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Fence Sitter wrote:I am surprised we don't have a thread on this yet.
Two new apostles have been announced and neither are white and one is from Brazil.

Gerrit Gong Asian descent but born in the US - also very impressive resume in that he was a Rhodes scholar.

and

Ulisses Sores who was born in Brazil.

Good progress on both nominations in my opinion.
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Soares was baptized before the 1978 priesthood ban lift, he is white.
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Water Dog wrote:Called it


You're supposed to link to having called it.

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SteelHead wrote:Soares was baptized before the 1978 priesthood ban lift, he is white.

Correct, I should have limited my comment about racial background to Gong.

Though, being from Brasil I would expect there is a high likelihood that he has a mixed racial ancestors.
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Fence Sitter wrote:
SteelHead wrote:Soares was baptized before the 1978 priesthood ban lift, he is white.

Correct, I should have limited my comment about racial background to Gong.

Though, being from Brasil I would expect there is a high likelihood that he has a mixed racial ancestors.

He is from southern Brazil. Good chance he is pure Portuguese descent. My wife is NE Brazil and is pure Portuguese.

He has also worked for the church (paid employee) for the last forever.
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SteelHead wrote:He is from southern Brazil. Good chance he is pure Portuguese descent. My wife is NE Brazil and is pure Portuguese.

He has also worked for the church (paid employee) for the last forever.

Has your wife ever done one of DNA searches or do you know others who have?
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These were strategically wise decisions at a time when the Church is under fire on many fronts.
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