No more High Priest quorum

[_Water Dog]

Announced in priesthood session. HP will merge with EQ. I assume due to lack of activity. Maybe also meant to use the older guys to enforce orthodoxy among the younger ones. In my experience combined eq/hp was always a drag. The old farts dominate with their conspiratorial anecdotes. I wonder if this drives more millennials out?

[_I have a question]

Was there any explanation or commentary with the announcement about why they were being combined?

[_reflexzero]

Was there any explanation or commentary with the announcement about why they were being combined?

My guess would be that the unwritten order of things is not propagating among the Elders Quorums, and they need some good solid grape juice discussions.

[Guest]

Announced in priesthood session. HP will merge with EQ. I assume due to lack of activity. Maybe also meant to use the older guys to enforce orthodoxy among the younger ones. In my experience combined eq/hp was always a drag. The old farts dominate with their conspiratorial anecdotes. I wonder if this drives more millennials out?

Some are wondering if the office of High Priest will be fazed out just like the Seventies were on a local level?
I don't know.

I think it's because attendance is really down in some wards and many (especially the older members) are not staying past sacrament meeting. Combining the two groups helps it look like the numbers aren't as bad as they actually are.

Of course it's being touted as a very important revelation

[_Shulem]

restructuring of ward and stake Melchizedek Priesthood quorums that will help Melchizedek Priesthood holders accomplish the work of the Lord more effectively. In each ward, the high priests group and the elders quorum will now be combined into one elders quorum

The act of "restructuring" is facilitated because something is either growing or shrinking. In this case, the quorums are no doubt shrinking and running them is becoming too much of a burden on the members. That's why in order to "accomplish the work more effectively" they need to trim down the leadership positions and reduce the callings.

These modifications have been under study for many months

Several months? This was obviously not an overnight revelation whereby Jesus appears to president Nelson and gives him a new direction for the church. It's obvious that the church is run like a committee not by direct revelation from angels and Jesus. They had to "study" their situation for many months in order to try and figure out how to stem the tide of failure. Jesus didn't come down and appear to Nelson telling him what to do.

What a Mormon joke.

President Nelson said. "We have felt a pressing need to improve the way we care for our members and report our contacts with them".

Right, the committee had to study it out for months because the committee realized there is a serious problem. No mention of Jesus telling president Nelson that there is a pressing need. No mention of Jesus parting the veil and coming down to direct the church personally. The church is run by men, not Jesus.

What a joke.

These adjustments are inspired of the Lord.

Inspired of the Lord? How so? Did Jesus come down? Was president Nelson translated and taken up to the 7th heaven to meet the Father? Rather, the committee was inspired just like Spencer W. Kimball and his committee was inspired to purchase forged documents from Mark Hoffman. We see how the inspiration of the so-called Holy Ghost works in Mormonism! It's a joke!

It will be my pleasure to hear about how the quorums of the church continue to diminish and fail.

[_Shulem]

Of course it's being touted as a very important revelation

Revelation in a pig's eye. This decision was made by a committee of men sitting around in a room trying to figure out how to stem the tide of failure. There was no revelation. There was no angelic visitation. There was no appearance of Jesus. Revelation in the Mormon church is nothing but men thinking about what to best do next. Mormon leaders are clueless about the future. The seers see not. Their eyes are closed. They are blind and leading a church of blind mice.

It's:

The Church of Men's Committee of Latter-day Mice

[_Shulem]

The First Presidency

[_cinepro]

The act of "restructuring" is facilitated because something is either growing or shrinking. In this case, the quorums are no doubt shrinking and running them is becoming too much of a burden on the members. That's why in order to "accomplish the work more effectively" they need to trim down the leadership positions and reduce the callings.

That's what I don't get. It's so obvious I'm surprised it even needs to be said.

If there's one thing LDS know, it's that we combine when things are weak, and split when things are strong. In the Sunday School presidency, we would combine youth classes when we didn't have enough attendance for two separate classes. In my junior year of High School, we combined seminary classes because we didn't have enough kids for two viable classes. When I lived in West LA, we overlapped our block schedule with the neighboring ward so our Primary and youth groups could combine since we had so few children and youth.

We combine wards or stakes when there isn't enough attendance or leadership for two separate wards or stakes.

I have never seen a situation where leadership said "Hey, we have two strong, vibrant groups here in the Church. Let's combine them!"

But now we're supposed to believe that combining the EQ and HP groups Church wide is anything other than a sign of a severe weakening of activity among the adult men in the Church?

[_Mormonicious]

Oh my, no more elite status in the Manor.

This reminds me of an episode of Are you being Served. Captain Peacock gets Executive Privileges only to have them taken away. Best to start at min 16:00 https://youtu.be/0DXWk5G5rvk

Biggest Slap to the Elite is that now they are demoted to just "Elders" Quorum members.

[_Maksutov]

I love Dallin Oaks going on about the "divine power" of the priesthood. The Amazing Adventures of Mor-Man! Let's not talk about sexual predation, the real secret sauce that keeps psycho perverts popping up throughout the West, trying to emulate the horny hillbilly con of Joseph Smith, Jr.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/20 ... ds-guilty/