NEW information ON REDACTED BYU POLICE REPORTS

[_consiglieri]

Smac is working hard addressing everything except for the real issue.

The real issue, it seems to me, is WHY is it the BYU police are hiding this information in their reports, and WHO is directing them to do so.

These are the real questions to my mind.

[_toon]

Smac is working hard addressing everything except for the real issue.

The real issue, it seems to me, is WHY is it the BYU police are hiding this information in their reports, and WHO is directing them to do so.

These are the real questions to my mind.

You'll have to ask Alex Jones.

[_consiglieri]

I am currently recording a podcast on these new developments.

Something I want to mention here is this:

On page 4 of McKenna's written statement to police, she mentions Joseph Bishop taking her through two locked doors in order to get inside his "preparation room."

To my knowledge, McKenna never mentioned this publicly. She only described the basement room in some detail.

It was only after her description of the room was reported in late March, 2018, that a former MTC employee went public to say: (1) That he was familiar with the room in the basement described by McKenna; (2) that the room in the basement exactly matched the description given by McKenna, up to and including the bed; (3) and that the former employee could not imagine why any missionary would be down in that basement given the fact they would have to go through more than one locked door to get there.



This was the first time the presence of locked doors was mentioned publicly.

But in McKenna's written statement to the police, emailed to them on December 7, 2017, she wrote the following:

"He escorted me out of his office and we turned toward the reception area. We went down a hallway and he opened a locked door that lead .... (the ellipses are in the original) I don't remember if there were any stairs or not but I think there might have been. He escorted me through the first locked door and towards another small storage room which was also locked. He unlocked that door, escorted me in, turned on the light and closed the door."

Now, if McKenna had added the details about the locked doors they had to pass through AFTER the former MTC employee mentioned it to KUTV, it could be said that McKenna was just copying that detail and putting it in her story for verisimilitude.

But the opposite seems to be the case.

We have instead a statement by McKenna emailed to BYU Police on December 7, 2017, more than three months before the former MTC employee was quoted in the newspapers.

And her statement to the police mentions multiple locked doors.

I find this evidence highly corroborative of McKenna's story.

[_consiglieri]

Wow.

Just read the thread at MDDB.

That sure opened a can of worms.

Nice work!

[_candygal]

Wow.

Just read the thread at Mormon Dialogue & Discussion Board.

That sure opened a can of worms.

Nice work!

Yeah.and I am going to bow out so that I can keep friends on both boards. They already of answers for everything...facts or not I apologize Consig for any implication of ego being the reason for your agenda I was trying to point out that facts..they really matter. It helps to have the facts! You are my hero

[_consiglieri]

Thanks, Candygal!

I think trying to make my ego the center of the argument may be intended as a distraction from the real issues . . .

[_RockSlider]

mddb, strange how upset everyone is about Consig knowing the second victim's name and assuming the second victim sits in a bad spot fearful of her name going public.

My first thought, the girl was cared for in 2010 by the church if I'm understanding/remembering right, and likely is gagged by settlement agreements.

Heck, for all we know, she would love to go public, but can't.

[_moksha]

Smac is working hard addressing everything except for the real issue.

The real issue, it seems to me, is WHY is it the BYU police are hiding this information in their reports, and WHO is directing them to do so.

These are the real questions to my mind.

You'll have to ask Alex Jones.

Smac is working in concert with Alex Jones? Makes sense, that way they can generate twice the theories. Wonder if Alex might have an update on Cougar Pizza of Provo releasing sealed adoption records from LDS Social Services and funneling children to environmental activists in Colorado?

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/70478-did-mckenna-denson-meet-with-thomas-s-monson-after-mtc/

[_Meadowchik]

I am currently recording a podcast on these new developments.

Something I want to mention here is this:

On page 4 of McKenna's written statement to police, she mentions Joseph Bishop taking her through two locked doors in order to get inside his "preparation room."

To my knowledge, McKenna never mentioned this publicly. She only described the basement room in some detail.

It was only after her description of the room was reported in late March, 2018, that a former MTC employee went public to say: (1) That he was familiar with the room in the basement described by McKenna; (2) that the room in the basement exactly matched the description given by McKenna, up to and including the bed; (3) and that the former employee could not imagine why any missionary would be down in that basement given the fact they would have to go through more than one locked door to get there.



This was the first time the presence of locked doors was mentioned publicly.

But in McKenna's written statement to the police, emailed to them on December 7, 2017, she wrote the following:

"He escorted me out of his office and we turned toward the reception area. We went down a hallway and he opened a locked door that lead .... (the ellipses are in the original) I don't remember if there were any stairs or not but I think there might have been. He escorted me through the first locked door and towards another small storage room which was also locked. He unlocked that door, escorted me in, turned on the light and closed the door."

Now, if McKenna had added the details about the locked doors they had to pass through AFTER the former MTC employee mentioned it to KUTV, it could be said that McKenna was just copying that detail and putting it in her story for verisimilitude.

But the opposite seems to be the case.

We have instead a statement by McKenna emailed to BYU Police on December 7, 2017, more than three months before the former MTC employee was quoted in the newspapers.

And her statement to the police mentions multiple locked doors.

I find this evidence highly corroborative of McKenna's story.

I agree, and I really appreciated your podcast on the Bishop story. Thanks.

[_Stem]

Thanks, Candygal!

I think trying to make my ego the center of the argument may be intended as a distraction from the real issues . . .

Its sad commentary about what goes on over there when you are being attacked based on what they assume is your motives for mentioning that you have been told someone's name. And then they turn around and completely act as if no one can question the motives of others who actually did leak names, and actually did angrily attack another.

Somehow, Smac, thinks its so terrible of you to mention this (when the story was already told and out there) unnamed person exists, but the Church, and their paid for attorneys are pure in their motives, even if mistakes were made when the name was divulged and the character assassination campaign against McKenna was in full force.