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Re: Puerto Rico Mission President ex’d for sexual misconduct

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consiglieri wrote:A mission president in 2013-14 has multiple sexual liaisons with sister missionaries under his stewardship.

Salt Lake finds out and swoops in to save the day.

The mission president is replaced for a couple of months with an interim General Authority.

How many missionaries must know about what is going on? The sisters themselves, obviously. And how many more?

And yet the LDS Church manages to hush this whole thing up so effectively that pretty much nobody on the outside ever hears a word about it.

That takes some doing. That takes a machine. That takes experience.

All it takes is one person contacting the media for the whole house of cards to fall down.

And that is what happened over four years later.

And likely because of the Joseph Bishop scandal.

I think we may be seeing the #MormonMeToo Moment.

Maybe try to contact the poster on the RFM forum who posted back in 2015 (and just recently posted again about this case) that he had first hand knowledge about this? He was a Bishop (or at least in the Bishopric) and was involved from what I can tell. His name on there is: "mannaz" (I gave the link above).

He states that Smartt was ex'd for:
Multiple instances of adultery going back through his prior calling as a stake president and before


So, were those instance of adultery swept under the rug until he started fooling around with sister missionaries? Did he commit adultery with any of them? Were they promised that no discipline would happen against them (if it was consensual) as long as they stayed silent about it?
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Madison54 wrote:So, were those instance of adultery swept under the rug until he started fooling around with sister missionaries? Did he commit adultery with any of them? Were they promised that no discipline would happen against them (if it was consensual) as long as they stayed silent about it?


And I can't help but notice another similarity between the Bishop case and the Smartt case.

Bishop's profile was still up at lds.org until the day MormonLeaks posted the audio of the interview on March 19, 2018.

Bishop's books were also still being sold at Deseret Books until that day.

And the same goes for Smartt.

Smartt's glowing profile and photo were still up at lds.org until the story was leaked last week.

For over four years after his being "excommunicated," the LDS Church still had Smartt's profile up on their official website.

Until the church's cover-up was blown by a story in the SLT.

Why is that, I wonder . . .
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consiglieri wrote:Why is that, I wonder . . .

Can you say, "Cover-up"?

Actions taken by the church are based on a reactionary need to protect their own interest and maintain the best image possible. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints only cares about how it looks before the world, how to protect its own financial interests, and maintain the authoritative leadership of so-called apostles and prophets.

The church has no problem with telling half truths and sweeping matters under the rug. The church has no problem hiding things from the media or membership. The church has no problem lying for the Lord.

PS. I still think you should do a podcast on Facsimile No. 3. You'd do a great job.
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Sister missionary blog

This past week I cut President Smartt's hair and it was the first time in a year I'd used my clippers. But I'VE STILL GOT IT! He said he just wants me to cut his hair from now on! :) Hurray! :) I don't know how that'll happen when I'm on Tortola, but I'm sure he'll find a way to get there. But I feel like he's going to be a General Authority one day. He's super awesome and I hope you get to meet him!


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Marissa wrote:Yeah, we'll be getting a new President next Sunday. That's when they arrive, and it's gonna be exciting! I'm excited to meet him. I'm really sad President Alvarado is leaving, but I know that President Smartt is the man called of God to lead the mission as the current chapter of the Puerto Rico San Juan mission ends.


She also KNOWS the church is true.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Stupid dumb Mormons.
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Okay, this is a bit strange. Heather Smartt has a Facebook page. Heather's friends are listed for public view and the last public entry is dated to her mission in Puerto Rico. There is no time line or photos other than the profile pic. Click on the profile pic to read the messages sent to Heather asking about the mission. She doesn't say a single word in reply. No reply whatsoever.

Hmmm.

Andrea Jensen Nielson wrote:Heather how is life in Puerto Rico. What an amazing experience.


Marian Farnsworth Alder wrote:Been thinking about you and the family, how are thr adjustments going?


Pedro Zelph Ramirez Ortiz wrote:You are awesome familia smartt. Plaese say hello to presidente Smartt the best president in the World thanks for everything.


etc
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Why in the world is a sister mish giving the MP a hair cut?

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Shulem wrote:Sister missionary blog

This past week I cut President Smartt's hair and it was the first time in a year I'd used my clippers. But I'VE STILL GOT IT! He said he just wants me to cut his hair from now on! :) Hurray! :) I don't know how that'll happen when I'm on Tortola, but I'm sure he'll find a way to get there. But I feel like he's going to be a General Authority one day. He's super awesome and I hope you get to meet him!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Wow. I doubt it's real appropriate to have a sister missionary cutting the president's hair (unless she can do it without touching his head like happens most of the time during a haircut).

Those blogs are interesting to read. Of course none of the missionaries are going to post anything negative, but you can read between the lines on some of them.

One sister posted something like "Pres. Smartt did the oddest thing!" Then she went on to describe how out of the blue, he abruptly transferred her partner and it was completely off schedule from when transfers took place (like a special case). I could tell she thought it was strange.

I have to wonder if he transferred that sister missionary for a reason? I'm sure there was a lot of behind the scenes juggling going on for him :wink:
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Marissa is a doll!

Strangely, her last mission entry ends the week of April, 2014, when President Smartt was sent home.

I recall from another missionary blog that the shooting and Smartt's dismissal happened at the same time.

So our interviews never worked out because on Saturday, the day President Smartt was supposed to come, an Elder got shot twice in Puerto Rico, so he had to cancel. Hopefully he'll be able to come soon, but if not, that's okay. Sister Butler was actually going to be getting transferred but because of the incident, he put it on hold. I'm glad because I'm not exactly ready to take the reins here by myself. But to put a rest to your worries, the Elder is perfectly fine. The intended target is dead, these two Elders just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Luckily, the Lord spared his life. Still waiting for details, though. I'm sure President will let you all know in an email, too. If not, just ask me for the juicy details next week.


If the numbers on the blog posts represent weeks, it does not look like her mission would have been up by the time she posts this.

And yet I see no other posts afterward . . .

ETA: Never mind that last comment. It looks like subsequent posts are accessible elsewhere.
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Here's an interesting note from Marissa on May 5, 2014, after President Smartt was released.

She got the story about his wife's health problems, but seems to have gotten it from her family:

We found out about President Smartt too. (Released due to health issues with his wife.) I feel like you guys know more about what's going on in my mission than I do! So thanks for the updates, especially about the missionaries being reprimanded, that's definitely a juicy piece of gossip I didn’t hear about! Hahaha. No worries, I’m not planning on falling in love with anyone out here. Hahahahaha.
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