Church apologizes for Racism!

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I wonder if any faithful members felt the spirit as they read it.
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Shulem wrote:Mormon dialogue & discussion board

Gray wrote:Image

Oh my goodness! I am stunned!!!



Ginger Snaps wrote:Image

So am I, but thrilled too! This is truly a historic moment.



Bluebell wrote: Image

I couldn't even get through it without crying. Finally.


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Fools! Poor weepy Bluebell.
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Shulem wrote:Mormon dialogue & discussion board

Gray wrote:Image

Oh my goodness! I am stunned!!!



Ginger Snaps wrote:Image

So am I, but thrilled too! This is truly a historic moment.



Bluebell wrote: Image

I couldn't even get through it without crying. Finally.


Fools! Poor weepy Bluebell.

I can't blame them for hoping the Church would seek penitence for such a horrendous 130-year mistake. Repenting of wrongs is a cornerstone of these poster's belief system. The reason why this hoax apology was so touching was that members realize this apology is long overdue.

When Bluebell realized that she would have to lower her expectations of the Church doing what its scriptures preach, it understandably made her sad.

That is why they felt such emotion; they wanted the Church to do the right thing. There is no deficiency or foolishness in that desire.
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I know more than one woman abused by her husband. Sure, I could try to "open their eyes" by pretending that their husbands are apologizing for all the threats, gas-lighting, and shaming. I could write very nice, convincing letters, maybe have them delivered with flowers and chocolate. This is very much like the hoax by Jonathan Streeter.

(by the way, he did do an interview in his name for the SL Tribune about it.)
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I’d be interested in spending a penny on knowing the thoughts of those MDD posters who felt the spirit whilst reading what they thought was a First Presidency apology...
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I have a question wrote:I’d be interested in spending a penny on knowing the thoughts of those MDD posters who felt the spirit whilst reading what they thought was a First Presidency apology...


Suppose for a second that the presentation was really from the church and she continued in her weepy moments of joy to achieve full satisfaction that the church apologized. I can imagine on the next fast and testimony meeting that Bluebell would be getting up and testifying how she felt the Spirit so strongly and wept for joy as the Savior's love overshadowed her during her Internet reading. Members of the congregation would then feel the Spirit too and some would cry.

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That's Mormonism for you. Foolishness.
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malkie wrote:I wonder if any faithful members felt the spirit as they read it.


One can only imagine. The Spirit works in mysterious ways. The Spirit suckered President Kimball and his counselors to purchase Mark Hoffman's forgeries using sacred church funds. It's obvious, the Spirit of Mormonism is nothing more than wild feelings that go amuck.
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Shulem wrote:
I have a question wrote:I’d be interested in spending a penny on knowing the thoughts of those MDD posters who felt the spirit whilst reading what they thought was a First Presidency apology...


Suppose for a second that the presentation was really from the church and she continued in her weepy moments of joy to achieve full satisfaction that the church apologized. I can imagine on the next fast and testimony meeting that Bluebell would be getting up and testifying how she felt the Spirit so strongly and wept for joy as the Savior's love overshadowed her during her Internet reading. Members of the congregation would then feel the Spirit too and some would cry.


Mormons are prepared to rally behind and testify of both heads and tails. It’s like baptism melts their backbone.

Mormons (generally) do stand for something...whatever they are told they stand for. Even if it’s the opposite of what they were told to stand for yesterday. It won’t be long before Bluebell & Co are explaining exactly why the Church was right not to apologise. In fact, the about turn is already visible...
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“Today, in unity with such capable and impressive leaders as the national officials of the NAACP, we are impressed to call on people of this nation, and indeed, the entire world, to demonstrate greater civility, racial and ethnic harmony and mutual respect,”...
...said the White Bloke who refused to take the opportunity to apologise for the 100 years of institutional racism his organisation operated. Maybe he was waiting for the leaders of the NAACP to apologise to the world for their members skin colour?
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moksha wrote:I can't blame them for hoping the Church would seek penitence for such a horrendous 130-year mistake. Repenting of wrongs is a cornerstone of these poster's belief system. The reason why this hoax apology was so touching was that members realize this apology is long overdue.

When Bluebell realized that she would have to lower her expectations of the Church doing what its scriptures preach, it understandably made her sad.

That is why they felt such emotion; they wanted the Church to do the right thing. There is no deficiency or foolishness in that desire.
Well said, moksha. I feel for the members that wanted so very badly for this to be real. It wasn't that long ago that I was one of them. I remember hoping for a shift away from the hardline stances on homosexuality only to be met with the November policy. Being presented with a very well crafted message that perfectly encapsulates what you believe should be the response from an organization that is a part of your very being, only to have it ripped away... absolutely crushing.
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