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Re: Sandra Tanner, John Dehlin, grindael Podcast

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:19 am
by _Shulem
Kishkumen wrote:In any case, the demand for a detailed description of the process whereby the Book of Mormon was fabricated and foisted on others is unnecessary. As you say, one does not have to explain how the illusion was created to know that it was an illusion. A modern magician is an ethical illusionist. Joseph Smith was a pious fraudster.


Smith was the greatest religious magician of his day. His invisible props (golden plates) were used to tell a tale of a tale. Claims of angelic visitations including the First Vision were simply stories to excite the minds of anyone who would follow him in his quest to establish himself as God's prophet on earth. He saw the opportunity to make a show and he ran with it.

Then came the papyrus and mummies. He used those props to tell more tales.

Re: Sandra Tanner, John Dehlin, grindael Podcast

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:41 am
by _RockSlider
consiglieri wrote:
RockSlider wrote:He now rates two blistering podcasts highlighting how ugly his generation of apologetics is and how obsolete it is rapidly becoming in an enlightened internet age with many eyes upon him.

Soon to be three podcasts, since I have a part 2 in the works in which I will address Professor Peterson's attempted defense and the firestorm of controversy that has swirled around his initial article.

The working title is, "Eenie Meenie Minie Moe, Catch an Apologist by the Toe."

RFM

I can't wait!

Re: Sandra Tanner, John Dehlin, grindael Podcast

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:16 pm
by _Shulem
grindael wrote:Where was the Holy Ghost when Joseph was trying to remember what age he was when HE SAW GOD???!!!


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1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Spook.

2 We believe that children of gay parents will be punished for their parent's sins, and not for their own.

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The Mormons

Re: Sandra Tanner, John Dehlin, grindael Podcast

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:01 pm
by _Johannes
Kishkumen wrote:In any case, the demand for a detailed description of the process whereby the Book of Mormon was fabricated and foisted on others is unnecessary. As you say, one does not have to explain how the illusion was created to know that it was an illusion. A modern magician is an ethical illusionist. Joseph Smith was a pious fraudster.


Oddly enough, there's a crossover between stage magicians and paranormal people (for want of a better term).... I've known, or known of, stage magicians who have set out to debunk paranormal activities as well as those who have engaged in them with apparent sincerity. THe two worlds touch more than most people realise.

Re: Sandra Tanner, John Dehlin, grindael Podcast

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:35 pm
by _Shulem
Bumping for Daniel C Peterson, liar for the Lord.

:twisted:

Re: Sandra Tanner, John Dehlin, grindael Podcast

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:49 am
by _Dr Exiled
Shulem wrote:Bumping for Daniel C Peterson, liar for the Lord.

:twisted:


This is why he is so caustic and unfeeling. The internal struggle must be immense.

Re: Sandra Tanner, John Dehlin, grindael Podcast

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:19 am
by _Shulem
Exiled wrote:
Shulem wrote:Bumping for Daniel C Peterson, liar for the Lord.

:twisted:


This is why he is so caustic and unfeeling. The internal struggle must be immense.


He's given himself over to delusion and drinks from the ego of his own mind. He's living in a fantasy that suits his own purposes.