Jersey Girl wrote:Press conference is ongoing live as I write this. Sam Young being interviewed by multiple reporters. Currently giving an interview in Spanish. One reporter was possibly national, will try to find out.
Sam is on fire.
Watch it live on Facebook or view later.
This really is the beginning of a campaign to force the church to stop abusing children and expose the church for this horrific practice. Eventually it will get legal and government attention. The public needs to know that Mormons are obsessed with not masturbating and have messed with the tender minds of countless children. This is Karma, baby, and the church is going to be bitch slapped harder than it was over polygamy. The church is guilty and should pay a heavy price just like the Catholic church did.
I think that the current protest is one step forward in a process. by the way, the other night I looked for information regarding my former church, the SBC.
Here's how the SBC chose to address the issues and take note of the date of the article.
An issue that was raised by last evening (?) was that should the LDS church eliminate one:one interviews with children, would that prevent children from reporting abuse.
I thought Sam's answer was spot on. He said that what should be happening is that adults who interact with children in positions of responsibility/authority (teachers, pastors, bishops, etc.) should be receiving bystander training. This would help adults identify signs of suspected child abuse and give them guidance on how to proceed.
I can't help but agree that this should be the case in all church settings because it's the only way to get close to meeting the needs of the children.
Sam has obviously done his homework. He's well able to articulate the issues and suggest workable solutions. Even if the church itself is not listening in, Sam's audience is listening and absorbing what he presents.
A grassroots fire cannot spread far or fast without strong wind. I'm now seeing Sam as propellant.
:-)
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Chinese Proverb
Jersey Girl wrote:I think that the current protest is one step forward in a process. by the way, the other night I looked for information regarding my former church, the SBC.
Here's how the SBC chose to address the issues and take note of the date of the article.
LDS teaching positions are constantly changing hands and there are a great many people in positions that serve children throughout the church. The way the church operates they would have to perform background checks on pretty much every single member of the ward because everyone pretty much gets involved with children at some point or another. I would have to think there are some members who would object to getting a background check perhaps because they have a criminal record and don't want the embarrassment to resurface.
This is a real problem for the LDS church. They need to change their entire teaching structure and limit those who work with children. Gone are the days of having everyone teach. Yeah!
Jersey Girl wrote:I think that the current protest is one step forward in a process. by the way, the other night I looked for information regarding my former church, the SBC.
Here's how the SBC chose to address the issues and take note of the date of the article.
LDS teaching positions are constantly changing hands and there are a great many people in positions that serve children throughout the church. The way the church operates they would have to perform background checks on pretty much every single member of the ward because everyone pretty much gets involved with children at some point or another. I would have to think there are some members who would object to getting a background check perhaps because they have a criminal record and don't want the embarrassment to resurface.
This is a real problem for the LDS church. They need to change their entire teaching structure and limit those who work with children. Gone are the days of having everyone teach. Yeah!
FBI background check probably costs close to $50 by now. State...I'm guessing $25.
Look at is as a bit of insurance.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Jersey Girl wrote: FBI background check probably costs close to $50 by now. State...I'm guessing $25.
Look at is as a bit of insurance.
The church is just going to have to foot the bill and get a program going where everyone is checked. Just imagine all the shaming and pointed fingers that will take place when members gossip about so and so not accepting or being worthy of a calling.
Instead of just wondering if that unworthy person masturbates members will be wondering if he's a felon or has some kind of devious thing on his record.
Oh my. It's time to bail out of the good ship Mormonism! Questionable members need to get out now or face humiliation and public embarrassment.
Jersey Girl wrote:FBI background check probably costs close to $50 by now. State...I'm guessing $25.
Look at is as a bit of insurance.
Every year when my kids do sports and I signup to help with the team or coach they run a background check on me. Every. Year. Adults who have been cleared then get a special ID that they are supposed to wear. If you don't have the ID, you don't get to be in the dugout, etc.
The other thing about this that makes no sense is they could simply require members to pay for the cost of their own background checks. No questions asked, they would do it. The church could simply form a partnership with Intelius, or some company, and then setup a website that is tied to their LDS ORG account. Point, click, enter credit card number, background check is then done. It would be SOOOO easy. Wouldn't cost the church a penny, they might even turn a profit.
Jersey Girl wrote:FBI background check probably costs close to $50 by now. State...I'm guessing $25.
Look at is as a bit of insurance.
Every year when my kids do sports and I signup to help with the team or coach they run a background check on me. Every. Year. Adults who have been cleared then get a special ID that they are supposed to wear. If you don't have the ID, you don't get to be in the dugout, etc.
The other thing about this that makes no sense is they could simply require members to pay for the cost of their own background checks. No questions asked, they would do it. The church could simply form a partnership with Intelius, or some company, and then setup a website that is tied to their LDS ORG account. Point, click, enter credit card number, background check is then done. It would be SOOOO easy. Wouldn't cost the church a penny, they might even turn a profit.
I paid out of pocket for my own state and federal background checks. I see no reason why LDS church folks wouldn't do the same. If someone wanted to opt out, they simply wouldn't be permitted to take part in working with or transporting youth.
Done.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
I asked about the issue of 2 petitions and received a response. Here's an excerpt of the conversation.
the one we started has the lower number, and someone else had started one that has the higher number. There is no other difference (members and non members can sign either or both).
We delivered copies of both to the Church at the March for the Children on March 30.
And yes, there could be some crossover signatures. I'm not sure if that matters except for those who would like to see more precise reporting which I think is understandable, still two petitions were delivered to the church for consideration.
And as I stated previously, when I signed there was no distinction made for members vs. non-members so I can vouch for what was stated above in terms of my own experience.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
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