Sam Young's Excommunication Notice

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Jersey Girl wrote:
I don't know how other countries might handle this information. I do know that UK has had opportunity to receive information via one BBC televised discussion and another BBC story that was run, if memory serves, in late July of this year.

Another story was recently run in Austria.

No way of telling how these issues will be addressed (or not) outside the States.


Yeah, it's a wild card but here's the thing, since the church is in all over the world that means there are many wild cards in the deck which also means the deck is stacked against the church because in the end protecting children is going to win out and government(s) will step up to the responsibility of putting an end to this religious form of sexual bullying -- an abusive form of brainwashing. You can count your bottom dollar that the church is going to put a stop to it once forced and then comes the spin and apologetic responses about how the church never really officially sanctioned the practice but left it to bishops to decide how to handle individual matters. But all that will backfire on the church. The church owns it.
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I'd bet that when Sam is excommunicated this story will hit national news. The threat of being excommunicated is a developing story in itself but when it happens it's a whole new game because the story is confirmed. News reporters will pick it up and run with it. I think we will be pleasantly surprised with the national attention this will generate. It won't be good for the church at all because it will put them on the defensive yet again.
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He’s going to be excommunicated for vigourously asking the Church to protect children a little more from the risk of sexual abuse and grooming. In response the Church Leaders are saying ‘No’ and ‘You are no longer welcome in our Church because you’ve asked us publicly’.

Think about that.

Then think about it against the back drop of what has happened and is happening within the Catholic Church.

I think the members are entitled to know how much the Church has paid out in settlements over the last 20 years.
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I have a question wrote:He’s going to be excommunicated for vigourously asking the Church to protect children a little more from the risk of sexual abuse and grooming. In response the Church Leaders are saying ‘No’ and ‘You are no longer welcome in our Church because you’ve asked us publicly’.

Think about that.



All of this is now a matter of PUBLIC record for the entire world to read about with complete transparency. The church can't hide anymore or keep information away from the public. The world will learn about this and be disgusted with Mormonism. The name of the church and its leadership is about to be dragged through the mud like never before. First it was polygamy. Then came the priesthood ban. Now the abusive practices of children from Mormon bishops will take the church to a place it will have wished it never went.

Mormons are an abusive child molesting CULT. I want to see felony convictions against clergy that sexually abuse children. Bishops be warned! You're going to jail if you continue this immoral practice. Those who have already harmed children may be subject to upcoming arrests and lawsuits.

A great purge is coming! Mormon child molestations are going to end.

So be it.
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Shulem wrote:All of this is now a matter of PUBLIC record for the entire world to read about with complete transparency. The church can't hide anymore or keep information away from the public. The world will learn about this and be disgusted with Mormonism. The name of the church and its leadership is about to be dragged through the mud like never before. First it was polygamy. Then came the priesthood ban. Now the abusive practices of children from Mormon bishops will take the church to a place it will have wished it never went.

Mormons are an abusive child molesting CULT. I want to see felony convictions against clergy that sexually abuse children. Bishops be warned! You're going to jail if you continue this immoral practice. Those who have already harmed children may be subject to upcoming arrests and lawsuits.

A great purge is coming! Mormon child molestations are going to end.

So be it.

Bishops and other leaders are already going to jail, court cases are already being settled. The one to one interviews continue unabated. Sam Young isn’t going to change that. The only thing that will change it is when a groundswell of members withhold tithing and service until change is made. Given that Sam cannot rustle up some supporting witnesses from within the membership, I’m not hopeful that any members, let alone a groundswell, will do anything other than go along to get along.

Think about it, Mormon parents know their child runs the risk of being groomed or worse as a result of being asked sexually explicit questions by an unrelated adult male in a one to one private interview. Yet still they push them into the office. Those parents are complicit in propagating the situation where predators can get unsupervised access to their kids. Or they at least willingly allow their child to become desensitised to the risks of an adult asking them inappropriate questions.

Think about it, Mormon parents want their children to be asked sexually explicit questions by an unrelated adult male in a private and secret interview. They want this. Church Leaders aren’t the problem, members are. This interviews don’t happen because the Leaders simply say they happen. They happen because members facilitate them.
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Like I said, Mormonism is a CULT -- the cult members are lead by cult leaders. It's all one big CULT!

I'm very optimistic that government(s) are going to step in and survey the situation and new laws will be better defined regarding what unrelated adults can discuss with children. The government has a responsibility to step in. I just happen to think that the government isn't informed about what's actually taking place and how children are being abused by Mormon clergy and all this being allowed by parents who allow cult leaders to abuse them. These Mormon parents that allow their children to be abused in this fashion are scum. I say drag them through mud too along with their filthy church.

It's going to end. I'd bet money on it.
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He's calling for boots on the ground back up. Posted 1 hour ago on Facebook.

Protect LDS Children

1 hr ·

**Is this fight worth fighting???***


That’s a Hell yes with a High Five!!!

I need your support. If you can come to the Tribunal on Sept 9, PLEASE COME. Most of my active and supportive Mormon friends in the Houston Texas South Stake can’t. Of course, I understand their dilemma.

The church is trying to make my excommunication about protecting the church and protecting its leaders. It is NOT about them. It is NOT about me. IT.IS.ABOUT.CHILDLREN. PERIOD!!!!

I will not let them off the hook!!!!

PLEASE COME.

At 4:30pm, I’ll begin a live Facebook broadcast. At 5:45pm, I’ll enter the stake president’s office to await the tribunal’s 6pm start. I have no idea how long it will last. They have allotted me a mere 45 minutes to defend our children.

Address: 14555 Lexington Blvd, Sugar Land, Texas

PLEASE COME.

Be a part of standing up and speaking out to protect Mormon children.

PLEASE SHARE....SHARE....SHARE
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I'd make the trip from Dallas to Houston but unfortunately I've got to stay grounded in Dallas.

The church in Houston is lucky Shulem isn't coming down. I'd kick their sorry child molesting asses.

Rats.
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Shulem wrote:I'd make the trip from Dallas to Houston but unfortunately I've got to stay grounded in Dallas.

The church in Houston is lucky Shulem isn't coming down. I'd kick their sorry child molesting asses.

Rats.


I so was hoping you could go. Damn this. His friends in the area can't go because they feel subject to the same threat that he's facing. No surprises there I'm afraid.

He's got some other stuff posted on Facebook, you can take a look. I don't have time just now to be reposting anything more.

Later.
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Jersey Girl wrote:He's calling for boots on the ground back up. Posted 1 hour ago on Facebook.

Protect LDS Children

1 hr ·

**Is this fight worth fighting???***


That’s a Hell yes with a High Five!!!

I need your support. If you can come to the Tribunal on Sept 9, PLEASE COME. Most of my active and supportive Mormon friends in the Houston Texas South Stake can’t. Of course, I understand their dilemma.

The church is trying to make my excommunication about protecting the church and protecting its leaders. It is NOT about them. It is NOT about me. IT.IS.ABOUT.CHILDLREN. PERIOD!!!!

I will not let them off the hook!!!!

PLEASE COME.

At 4:30pm, I’ll begin a live Facebook broadcast. At 5:45pm, I’ll enter the stake president’s office to await the tribunal’s 6pm start. I have no idea how long it will last. They have allotted me a mere 45 minutes to defend our children.

Address: 14555 Lexington Blvd, Sugar Land, Texas

PLEASE COME.

Be a part of standing up and speaking out to protect Mormon children.

PLEASE SHARE....SHARE....SHARE

His church court is today?
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