Joseph Smith stole the One Eternal Now

[_Shulem]

You have to delete your quote of it too, you silly man!!

There, I got now. If you can send it up to a higher kingdom that would be nice.

[_Shulem]

Is this Adam Clarke of the “one eternal now” the same person who wrote the commentary Joseph relied upon heavily when doing the JST?

I think so. What do you think, Kishy? I think this is a big find. I was so disappointed to learn that Smith was parroting what he had read or heard. I thought it was an original concept fallen from his lips. But apparently not.

[_Shulem]

consiglieri, where are you when I need you?

What do you think about all this?

Don't you dare think about skipping this thread lest I skip my next donation. I'm behind and owe you.

[_huckelberry]

So where and when did Joseph Smith make this comment about the eternal now? It is a phrase which references traditional theological ideas which may not fit well with the later ideas Joseph was experimenting with. Is the date late indicating some vasilation of thought?

[_consiglieri]

consiglieri, where are you when I need you?

What do you think about all this?

Don't you dare think about skipping this thread lest I skip my next donation. I'm behind and owe you.

I think you have made a significant find, Shulem!

I congratulate you on your percipience

So does Terryl.

[_consiglieri]

I am actually serious about this being the kind of thing Terryl would groove on.

Would you like me to transmit your find to him through back channels?

Terryl is pretty good about giving proper attribution.

[_Shulem]

I am actually serious about this being the kind of thing Terryl would groove on.

Would you like me to transmit your find to him through back channels?

Terryl is pretty good about giving proper attribution.

Sure, anything you can do would be appreciated. I'm pretty sure that the "One Eternal Now" that Joseph Smith adopted into his theology was one of many borrowings he picked up from various scholarly commentaries.

[_Shulem]

So where and when did Joseph Smith make this comment about the eternal now? It is a phrase which references traditional theological ideas which may not fit well with the later ideas Joseph was experimenting with. Is the date late indicating some vasilation of thought?

Here:

The great Jehovah contemplated the whole of the events connected with the earth, pertaining to the plan of salvation, before it rolled into existence, or ever ‘the morning stars sang together’ for joy; the past, the present, and the future were and are, with Him, one eternal 'now;'

[_consiglieri]

I am actually serious about this being the kind of thing Terryl would groove on.

Would you like me to transmit your find to him through back channels?

Terryl is pretty good about giving proper attribution.

Sure, anything you can do would be appreciated. I'm pretty sure that the "One Eternal Now" that Joseph Smith adopted into his theology was one of many borrowings he picked up from various scholarly commentaries.

Consider the message sent.

[_consiglieri]

You know, it occurs to me we have not yet seen the actual correspondences found between Clark's commentary and the Joseph Smith translation. I wonder if this is among them. Hard to know when it has not been published yet.