Re: Possible purge of the Maxwell Instutute?
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:40 pm
Does Doctor Scratch's 2018 Top Ten Happenings require a last minute revision...?
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I have a question wrote:Does Doctor Scratch's 2018 Top Ten Happenings require a last minute revision...?
Dan is traveling in Egypt right now and has only spotty and poor internet access, but I am in high hopes that we will hear from him later
Fence Sitter wrote:If anyone is wondering why Dan isn't weighing in on this as much as he usually does, there is this little gem from Scott "Baghdad Bob" Lloyd in this same thread.Dan is traveling in Egypt right now and has only spotty and poor internet access, but I am in high hopes that we will hear from him later
http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/71425-a-course-correction-for-the-maxwell-institute/?do=findComment&comment=1209878819
Well there's a shocker.
Gadianton wrote:I have a few questions for Doctor Scratch, assuming he has time with his busy travel schedule to answer.
Of all the astounding revelations in the last 24 hours, most striking was the revelation by Midgley that the "hit" was ordered by Packer himself, which corroborates the revelations of Doctor Scratch regarding Brethren-directed apologetics, and specifically, the power of Packer. Although Midgley struggles to control his own narrative, he reveals subtly that Packer's influence is factional and political. And if Scratch is right about the Packer faction, then what of the Oaks faction? Perhaps Midgley doesn't know about the Oaks faction? I mean, here you have Midgley with suddenly, all this GA backed firepower behind him, and he generalizes from here that this represents the general will of the Church leadership without realizing that there may be an opposing faction that would be a kind of negative space within his own narrative. If Scratch is right, and Oaks is taking over, then this could be very bad for the Mopologists.
Midgley wrote:More spin from a PR expert. What I have been told by those who were in the trenches is that you constantly complained that they were not doing things the right way, and they begged you to explain exactly what the problem was that troubled you, and you never could give a coherent reply. Were a half a dozen people, all of whom I trust, all making something up.
B. Hodges wrote:I wasn't "sent packing" from FAIR, Lou. I withdrew for lack of time while attending grad school. I was thanked for my service, which included founding the FAIR podcast. I've explained in other venues that neither myself nor the Institute is averse to apologetics. Since things keep descending into gossip, and since you've openly described yourself as trying to dig up "useful" information about me personally, I prefer to end the conversation with you at this point. Take care.
(emphasis added)Midgley wrote:Carl Griffin was one of four employees [I'm guessing the others are Morgan Davis, Gerald Bradford, and Brent Webb?] of the Maxwell Institute who were involved in the plot to purge Dan Peterson from the Institute. The title of his essay is "Looking Down a Dark Well: An Editorial Introduction" (pp 55-58), which is followed by essays by Daniel Becerra, who was then a PhD candidate at Duke University (pp. 59-65), which is then followed by Taylor Petrey's "Siding with Heretics: Evaluating Hugh Nibley Today" (pp.66-70). Petrey is now a tenured professor at Kalamazoo College. And his opinions are not even close to the faith of Latter-day Saints. So I urge everyone to read and ponder his bizarre essay. He argues that Nibley work was derivative and also that he work neglected looking into the currently popular concerns about sexual orientation, gender and so forth. This is clearly a not even subtle argument that Nibley's work on early Christianity must now be sent to the rubbish bin because he wrote prior to the now trendy concern about sexual orientation and gender. Pleas make your own assessment on whether this kind of ideology ought to have been published by an Institute named after Elder Maxwell.
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Both Carl Griffin's own comments and those he solicited from others, all but one of whom had not even finished a PhD, is clearly irresponsible and offensive. Nibley deserved better treatment and so did the donors who helped pay for the Maxwell Institute, and so did the tithe payers whose contributions help finance the Institute.
In addition, if one compares the very last edition of what was called the FARMS Review, until Jerry Bradford insisted on calling it Mormon Studies Review (see volume 23/1 (2011) with any issue of the what Bradford eventually revived under the name Mormon Studies Review, it will be obvious that what Dan Peterson, Greg Smith, George Mitton and I edited was far superior in every way from what has subsequently been published by the Maxwell Institute. I invite this comparison, since it will clearly manifest the problems that donors, the Brethren and ordinary Latter-day Saints find in the so-called "new direction."
(emphasis mine)Midgley wrote:The fact is that Professor Peters was invited by Elder Quentin Cook, an Apostle yet, to join him and five crucial Seventies, and Scott Gordon and Laura and Brian Hales to prepare a proposal that was eventually presented to the Area Committee, which consist of the Twelve Apostles, and whose meeting are attended by the Seventy who are currently assigned in Salt Lake, on how best to replace the Maxwell Institute as an agency to defend the Church of Jesus Christ from its critics, including those who are nominal members of the Church. This group met three times to carefully prepare a proposal for the consideration of the Twelve Apostles. And Professor Peterson delivered their recommendations to a meeting of the Area Committee. Those proposals were well received and many of them have already been implemented.
One of the proposals was that the Brethren ought to officially endorse the Interpreter Foundation, Book of Mormon Central and what has been called Fair Mormon as reliable sources of information. That has been done. Then, instead of using tithing money to finance the defense of the faith and the Saints, it was proposed, and accepted, that the Brethren establish an agency to seek donations to help finance Interpreter,Book of Mormon Central and FAIR. This agency is not operating; it is called Mormon Voices. One can also anticipate, given the current President of the Church of Jesus Christ, that there will be additional efforts made to see that the Saints defend their faith in responsible ways. I have been told that Elder Cook told that committee now to even mention the Maxwell Institute because the Brethren had given up on it. But, thankfully, what Elder Holland said so carefully and eloquently on November 10th seems to me to indicate that they still hope to turn the Maxwell Institute away from it dreadful course change fashioned after the firing of Dan Peterson.
I have previously explained all this to Blair Hodges, but he just ignored what I wrote, and went on posting the same rubbish. Has anyone at the Maxwell Institute even heard of the Area Committee? Or the proposals that Professor read to them, and upon which the Brethren have begun to act? Given what I know about how the Brethren feel about the radical change of directions that came after Professor Peterson was sent packing, I read Elder Holland's remarks directed to it current Director and to all those involved with it, as call for repentance, and a dire warning.
When the Spencer posts the Maxwell Institute report for 2018, with the very carefully worked remarks by Elder Holland that were read on November 10, 2018, I urge everyone to read the words of one who indicated that he was speaking with the full support of the Board of Trustees, the current President of the Church, whose opinions on the Maxwell Institute he quoted from an email sent to him, and also from all the Apostles. Given the language used by Elder Holland, I am confident that it would be a grave mistake for anyone at the Maxwell Institute not to do exactly what they have now been told to do. Then and only then can we begin to talk about their "coming along" with FAIR, Book of Mormon Central and the Interpreter Foundation.
(emphasis added)DCP wrote:First of all, my essay is being portrayed by certain folks as part of a continuing war on the Maxwell Institute waged by the Interpreter Foundation. This is not true. Had we wanted to go to war against the Maxwell Institute, the warfare would have been unmistakable. Those who want to see such antagonism are reading it into places where it simply doesn’t exist. I’m said to be positively drooling in anticipation of a purge at the Maxwell Institute. There are several clear problems with this idea. One is that it’s not true. Another is that I wrote absolutely nothing that can reasonable be construed as saying that.
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Am I altogether pleased with the course taken by the Maxwell Institute since June 2012? No. Very decisively not. And I’ve been candid about that. I think that the “change of course” announced then was a significant and quite unforced error, and that it has done grave damage. Do I think that I personally was treated fairly or well? No. Have I continually harped on either of those subjects privately, let alone publicly? No, I have not. I have, as the saying goes, moved on.
DCP wrote:A second final note: Some are saying that a new campus building is to be constructed for the Maxwell Institute and that this illustrates the enthusiasm and complete support of the Brethren for the course that the Institute has taken since 2012. Well, let’s not overstate this. The Maxwell Institute has been housed in University buildings for decades, since before it had the name Maxwell Institute and since long before it adopted its new course. (I had an office in its third campus building that I was ordered to clear out and to leave immediately upon my return to the United States from the Middle East in June 2012.) Significantly smaller now than it once was, the Institute has recently been moved to temporary housing in another university building – which is its fourth. And, when the new West View Building is completed, the employees of the Maxwell Institute will be among its various tenants.
Peterson wrote:A third and final final note: I see that the tiny group of my most obsessive critics is now inventing an entire new narrative in which the Brethren (who seem, in these critics’ minds, alternately to despise and reject me and to regard me as a valuable if sordid weapon against goodness and truth) are now funding Interpreter and directing our every move. Or something like that. If these critics weren’t so predisposed to fantasies and conspiracies and so certain that everything I say is a lie, they could simply ask me questions and I would answer them. I’m a pretty transparent fellow, and I have nothing to hide. But they seem to love the devilry that they’ve invented and ascribed to me and to prefer it to the truth. They’re blissfully happy with it. Thus, at least for now, they apparently can’t be helped.
And so it strikes me as very interesting how vocal these apologists are, revealing facts about things perhaps they shouldn't be revealing publicly. I mean, even if true, they are essentially "outing" their backers who quite clearly want to remain behind the scenes. Why would such backers want to continue to support people who can't keep a secret? Well, perhaps these outbursts find meaning in a different context that that which is typically considered: perhaps the apologists demand to be paid off. Once the easy funding comes, one possibility is that they are restricted to the aims of their backers and forever gagged and the new MI wins, another possibility is that they smile with glee, are fine with writing what they're told to write, and laugh all the way to the bank.