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And behold, let there be surveys!

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:15 pm
by _Meadowchik
I am hearing about surveys sent to members more and more frequently. It seems to me that, fromthe sounds of it, the church is trying to scrutinize what is going on with the membership, what influences members, and how members influence other members.

Here's one of the latest I've heard about:

Bizarre sondage dans les paroisses françaises/Weird survey in French wards

Donc, c'est confirmé par 3 amis en trois pieux différents et 2 régions. C'est un sondage de 42 questions qui sont posées aux jeunes, âges entre 11 et 17 ans. Il demande l'état de participation de leur famille dans l'église. Il demande si les enfants ont quoi a mangé. Mais aussi il demande si l'enfant est exposé a pornographie à la maison et si regardent porn avec leurs parents. Le sondage et structuré d'être anonyme, mais il y a les jeunes qui étaint demandés ces questions à la chapelle par l'évêque dans son bureau. Voilà. C'est pour votre information. Et aussi si vos connaissez plus de ça, svp di-nous. Merci!

So, this is confirmed by 3 friends in three different stakes and two regions. It is a survey of 42 questions which are asked of youth between the ages of 11 and 17 years old. It asks the participation level of their family in the church. It asks if the children have enough to eat. But then it asks if the child is exposed to pornography at home and if the child watches porn with his parents at home. The survey is structured to be anonymous, but there are youth who have been asked these questions by the bishop in his office.

That’s it. FYI. And also if you know more than this, please let us know. Thanks!

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... paroisses/

These tend to be done on a limited basis and usually with some effort at discretion. Scientifically, the church could glean much better results by more openly asking all members to complete them.

Re: And behold, let there be surveys!

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:13 pm
by _Kishkumen
Yeah, and they don't want people to know that they rely on these devices to make inspired decisions.

Re: And behold, let there be surveys!

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:07 pm
by _Meadowchik
A reddit poster made this contribution (below) to the cited thread, which corrects something I said in my OP. This group of surveys is indeed quite open. It is not as discreet as ones I've seen in the past.

It not only for france but for europe in general. I heard that the kids will have to fill out the survey every year for the next 10 years.

I have been sent the surveys links for the kids and leaders and would be interested to obtain the one for the YM/YW.

Anyway here are the surveys for leaders and kids:

hildren’s Websitehttps://LDS.qualtrics.com/SE/?SI ... randID=LDS

(General questions about children’s Internet usage and needs – all members with Primary age children can complete this survey)

Faith In God Parents Surveyhttps://LDS.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID ... randID=LDS

(Specifically for parents to survey how the Faith in God program is helping their children)

Faith In God Primary Presidents Surveyhttps://LDS.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID ... randID=LDS

(For Primary Presidents only)

Gospel Principles Leaders Surveyhttps://LDS.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID ... randID=LDS

(To be answered by ward bishoprics, Sunday School, Relief Society, and Melchizedek priesthood quorum presidencies)

Gospel Principles Teachers Surveyhttps://LDS.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID ... randID=LDS
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/atgdza/bizarre_sondage_dans_les_paroisses/eh15jm3/?context=3

Re: And behold, let there be surveys!

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:15 pm
by _Fence Sitter
What is it a prophet does again?

Re: And behold, let there be surveys!

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:20 pm
by _Maksutov
Fence Sitter wrote:What is it a prophet does again?


Profit. :wink: All of Smith's revelations contain this consistent typo. I blame the scribes. :lol:

Re: And behold, let there be surveys!

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:48 pm
by _I have a question
Meadowchik wrote:I am hearing about surveys sent to members more and more frequently. It seems to me that, fromthe sounds of it, the church is trying to scrutinize what is going on with the membership, what influences members, and how members influence other members.

Here's one of the latest I've heard about:

Bizarre sondage dans les paroisses françaises/Weird survey in French wards

Donc, c'est confirmé par 3 amis en trois pieux différents et 2 régions. C'est un sondage de 42 questions qui sont posées aux jeunes, âges entre 11 et 17 ans. Il demande l'état de participation de leur famille dans l'église. Il demande si les enfants ont quoi a mangé. Mais aussi il demande si l'enfant est exposé a pornographie à la maison et si regardent porn avec leurs parents. Le sondage et structuré d'être anonyme, mais il y a les jeunes qui étaint demandés ces questions à la chapelle par l'évêque dans son bureau. Voilà. C'est pour votre information. Et aussi si vos connaissez plus de ça, svp di-nous. Merci!

So, this is confirmed by 3 friends in three different stakes and two regions. It is a survey of 42 questions which are asked of youth between the ages of 11 and 17 years old. It asks the participation level of their family in the church. It asks if the children have enough to eat. But then it asks if the child is exposed to pornography at home and if the child watches porn with his parents at home. The survey is structured to be anonymous, but there are youth who have been asked these questions by the bishop in his office.

That’s it. FYI. And also if you know more than this, please let us know. Thanks!

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... paroisses/

These tend to be done on a limited basis and usually with some effort at discretion. Scientifically, the church could glean much better results by more openly asking all members to complete them.

Is the Church sending these surveys directly to the 11 to 17 year olds? Because that would be massively inappropriate.

Re: And behold, let there be surveys!

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:51 pm
by _I have a question
Fence Sitter wrote:What is it a prophet does again?

Surveys, pilot programmes, and gets up in the middle of the night to send his assigned wife out of the bedroom as he has to pee have a revelation, which she needs to be absent for in order to stand as a witness of it. The revelation, not the peeing. Apparently.

Re: And behold, let there be surveys!

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:06 pm
by _Meadowchik
I have a question wrote:Is the Church sending these surveys directly to the 11 to 17 year olds? Because that would be massively inappropriate.


These ones in the links are written to ask the parents about their children. However, in all three cases of my friends, children are being asked directly. One friend says that he was given the questions first before his children were asked.

Re: And behold, let there be surveys!

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:23 pm
by _I have a question
Meadowchik wrote:
I have a question wrote:Is the Church sending these surveys directly to the 11 to 17 year olds? Because that would be massively inappropriate.


These ones in the links are written to ask the parents about their children. However, in all three cases of my friends, children are being asked directly. One friend says that he was given the questions first before his children were asked.

So the Church is now directly grooming minors to answer intimate questions about themselves to strangers on the internet, in addition to grooming them via local Bishops. Is there nobody at Church Headquarters with an ounce of moral consciousness that understands just how wrong this is? Clearly not.

Re: And behold, let there be surveys!

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:35 am
by _Dr Exiled
It's funny looking back at when I was growing up in the church. We lived right by the SLC Temple and had a bunch of G.A.s in the stake and ward. We were always the subject to this test program or that test program. Leaders always sold it to us as wanting to know if we could follow what the Lord wanted prior to presenting it to the rest of the church. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: