https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_at_Fort_Utah
All the shrieking about Haun's Mill even now does not cover up the crimes of the "saints".
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On January 31, 1850, Isaac Higbee, who had replaced John Higbee as bishop of Fort Utah, met with Governor Brigham Young, militia leader General Daniel H. Wells and the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles to petition Young for a war order. He stated that all the occupants of Fort Utah were in agreement that they should go to war. Apostles Parley P. Pratt and Willard Richards argued for the killing of the Timpanogos, since losing Fort Utah would cut off communication to the southern colonies.[12] Brigham Young also was concerned losing Fort Utah would disrupt his plans to have a route to California and occupy every fertile valley.[13] Brigham Young ordered an extermination campaign against the Timpanogos, with orders to kill all the Timpanogos men, but save the women and children who behaved.[4]:394[14][15] General Wells drafted the extermination order as Special Order No. 2 and sent them to Captain George D. Grant.[12]:224 In his letter, he told Grant "Take no hostile Indians as prisoners" and "let none escape but do the work up clean".[16]
When Mormons Issued an Extermination Order
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When Mormons Issued an Extermination Order
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Re: When Mormons Issued an Extermination Order
The Mormons' professed love for the "lamanites" only went so far. Once the native americans showed their desire to not have their land confiscated by the Mormon settlers, all bets were off and BY and the Mormons did what all other whites did back then. Yet more evidence that there was never anything "inspired" about the Mormon church or its leaders.
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What the Mormons did with the American Indians simply destroyed the whole purpose of the Book of Mormon. It's been touted as "Another testament of Jesus Christ", but it was actually written for the "Lamanites" and was to be for them. They laughed it off. They laughed off the promises to be made "white and delightsome". Sitting Bull once said that if The Great Spirit wanted him to be a white man, he would have made him that way. Young once bragged that he had connections with all the Indian tribes and could get them to do whatever he wanted and when he was ready he would set them on the US Government. But nope, he didn't and couldn't. He did have some influence in Utah Territory. The Indians were simply a prop for them, which they cast aside when it wasn't working for them. The Indians are supposed to build the "New Jerusalem".
All this stuff about ignoring the history and archaeology of the book... well, that's not how Smith saw it.. he put all that first, then that it was about Jesus last.
THE
Book of Mormon,
AN ACCOUNT
WRITTEN BY THE HAND OF Mormon UPON PLATES
TAKEN FROM THE PLATES OF NEPHI:
Wherefore it is an abridgment of the record of the people of Nephi, and also of the Lamanites, written to the Lamanites, which are a remnant of the house of Israel; and also to Jew and Gentile, written by way of commandment; and also by the spirit of prophesy and of revelation, written and sealed and hid up unto the Lord, that they might not be destroyed, to come forth by the gift and power of God unto the interpretation thereof—sealed up by the hand of Moroni, and hid up unto the Lord, to come forth in due time by the way of Gentile, the interpretation thereof by the gift of God: an abridgment taken from the book of Ether.
Also, which is a record of the people of Jared, which were scattered at the time the Lord confounded the language of the people, when they were building a tower to get to heaven; which is to shew unto the remnant of the house of Israel how great things the Lord hath done for their fathers; and that they may know the covenants of the Lord, that they are not cast off for ever: And also to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ, the eternal God, manifesting himself unto all nations. And now, if there be fault, it be the mistake of men: wherefore condemn not the things of God, that ye may be found spotless at the Judgment seat of Christ.
By Joseph Smith, Junior,
AUTHOR AND PROPRIETOR.
All this stuff about ignoring the history and archaeology of the book... well, that's not how Smith saw it.. he put all that first, then that it was about Jesus last.
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Re: When Mormons Issued an Extermination Order
I guess it turned out that "Cousin Laman" or "Cousin Lemuel" , nicknames early church members sometimes used to refer to native peoples, weren't worth saving after all.
But what ever happened to the "Lamanite Generation"? You know, the ones that were going to be redeemed as the "remnant of Jacob". Weren't they going to be the "strong arm of Jehovah" or the "battle-ax of the Lord" - crushing their enemies like a lion among sheep? As one author put it:
Upon first arriving in the valley in 1847 & 1848, BY was actively encouraging the men and the wives. According to Thomas Bullock's journal at that time BY said that:
But things changed quickly as the Mormon population swelled with new converts. Fort Utah is the original name of Provo, and for the first few years the Saints stayed in the SL valley, but as the masses of British converts flooded in it was inevitable that the invaders would migrate south into the valley inhabited by the indigenous Indian population known as the "fish eaters". These "settlers" in a few short years destroyed the wetland marsh and lake fisheries there by turning it into an agriculture environment and over fishing the lake. Soon the Indians were starving. It is no wonder they fought back.
But what ever happened to the "Lamanite Generation"? You know, the ones that were going to be redeemed as the "remnant of Jacob". Weren't they going to be the "strong arm of Jehovah" or the "battle-ax of the Lord" - crushing their enemies like a lion among sheep? As one author put it:
Once redeemed, the "remnant of Jacob" would take the lead in building the New Jerusalem, the site of the Second Coming... all the unconverted [Gentiles] would be annihilated in the apocalypse... The United States would be destroyed in the process, In the midst of the re-creation, the "seed of Israel" would reclaim their former glory, including their fair skin
Upon first arriving in the valley in 1847 & 1848, BY was actively encouraging the men and the wives. According to Thomas Bullock's journal at that time BY said that:
the Elders would marry Wives of every tribe of Indians, and showed how the Lamanites would become a White & delightsome people.
But things changed quickly as the Mormon population swelled with new converts. Fort Utah is the original name of Provo, and for the first few years the Saints stayed in the SL valley, but as the masses of British converts flooded in it was inevitable that the invaders would migrate south into the valley inhabited by the indigenous Indian population known as the "fish eaters". These "settlers" in a few short years destroyed the wetland marsh and lake fisheries there by turning it into an agriculture environment and over fishing the lake. Soon the Indians were starving. It is no wonder they fought back.
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