Rome Temple - cross on the door. Gone.

[_Res Ipsa]

Why would the conspirators change the door to avoid showing the shape of a cross and at the same time prominently display an actual cross in the Visitor's Center?

[_Shulem]

So, that's a low res screen grab from a video. It's very blurry below the top horizontal bar. You can't tell wether the additional horizontal bars that appear on the actual doors are there or not. You also don't have two similarly lit examples to compare. Looks to me like pareidolia.

Res baby, I don't think you understand. I don't think you get it. The video is an idealistic view of what the temple is supposed to look like AFTER it is built. In this video there is no real door -- nothing is real. It's a depiction of what the church wants the officials in Rome to see in order to approve construction of their new edifice. Everything in the video is carefully done. The cross was intentionally put there for a reason. The brethren saw it and approved it. People who saw this video noticed right away that there was a cross on the door and that generated speculation in conversations about the upcoming Roman temple.

See video at 1:50

Rome Italy Temple 2010

[Guest]

Why would the conspirators change the door to avoid showing the shape of a cross and at the same time prominently display an actual cross in the Visitor's Center?

They didn't change the door. The door in the video was an artist's rendition of what the front door was supposed to look like once it was built. They didn't build it according to specs. I'm sure however they achieved exactly what they wanted when Italian officials viewed the film. It was nothing but a cheap trick on part of the Mormons. Deceit. That's what Mormons do. They lie, lie, lie.

[_Shulem]

prominently display an actual cross in the Visitor's Center?

That's a historic rendition (fit for a museum) to reflect common scenes which seem fitting enough for those who will see it, Italians. Now, shall we talk about hanging a cross up on the wall inside the temple? See the difference?

[_Res Ipsa]

So, that's a low res screen grab from a video. It's very blurry below the top horizontal bar. You can't tell wether the additional horizontal bars that appear on the actual doors are there or not. You also don't have two similarly lit examples to compare. Looks to me like pareidolia.

Res baby, I don't think you understand. I don't think you get it. The video is an idealistic view of what the temple is supposed to look like AFTER it is built. In this video there is no real door -- nothing is real. It's a depiction of what the church wants the officials in Rome to see in order to approve construction of their new edifice. Everything in the video is carefully done. The cross was intentionally put there for a reason. The brethren saw it and approved it. People who saw this video noticed right away that there was a cross on the door and that generated speculation in conversations about the upcoming Roman temple.

See video at 1:50

Rome Italy Temple 2010

Oh, I get it. But it's nonsensical. First, the notion that putting a cross image in the door would have increased the chance of getting approval for the building is beyond silly. I mean, are there no mosques or synagogues in Rome? Do they all have crosses on the doors? Is there a provision of the Rome building code that requires door crosses?

I mean:

Architect: Here is your video of what the temple will look like.

MoDude: That's great, but we need the door to look like it has a cross on it.

Architect: But why?

MoDude: To trick the building department in Rome. If they think we're putting a cross on the door, the permit will be approved for sure?

Architect: What?

MoDude: Don't worry, it's just a ruse. You know we don't use crosses on our buildings. We'll just use different doors.

Architect: OK? But you know those statutes of the apostles have Phillip holding a cross.

MoDude: Oh, that's different. It's art.

Seriously, Shulem?


Let's check in at the Roman Building department:

RomanDude 1: I'm denying the building permit for the Mormons.

RomanDude2: Why?

RomanDude1: Mormons aren't Christians, so they can't have a temple in our City.

RomanDude2: But that's not in the building code.

RomanDude1: I don't care. I'm a bigoted Catholic ass, so I'm going to deny it anyway.

RomanDude2: Wait. Did you see this video posted at LDS.org?

RomanDude1: No. Who cares?

RomanDude 2: Look at the doors, Dude!

RomanDude1: A cross? On the doors? That changes everything. [Stamps plans.]

Beyond silly.

[_Res Ipsa]

And the video was made for the groundbreaking. It's a video made by the church for Mormons. There's no evidence it was ever submitted to or seen by planners or permitters in Rome. There's no evidence that the ground breaking took place before the buildings were approved. It's just a case of pareidolia wrapped in an unsupported conspiracy narrative.

[_Shulem]

Seriously, Shulem?

Yep, seriously. Had I been in the church employ trying to get a temple on square footing in Rome, I would have employed the same trick and advised the brethren to do pretty much exactly what they already did.

I guess it just goes to show that the church doesn't need me. It seems the church knows all the tricks in the book.

BUT, now that I'm in Satan's employ, the church is in real trouble.

[_Shulem]

And the video was made for the groundbreaking. It's a video made by the church for Mormons. There's no evidence it was ever submitted to or seen by planners or permitters in Rome. There's no evidence that the ground breaking took place before the buildings were approved. It's just a case of pareidolia wrapped in an unsupported conspiracy narrative.

Find that evidence. It exists. Satan has inspired me. He knows.

Thanks.

[_Res Ipsa]

Seriously, Shulem?

Yep, seriously. Had I been in the church employ trying to get a temple on square footing in Rome, I would have employed the same trick and advised the brethren to do pretty much exactly what they already did.

I guess it just goes to show that the church doesn't need me. It seems the church knows all the tricks in the book.

BUT, now that I'm in Satan's employ, the church is in real trouble.

That's probably why you weren't employed by the church in that role.

[_Shulem]

That's probably why you weren't employed by the church in that role.

I can feel the spirit of Satan. Can you?

It feels so good.