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Kishkumen wrote:This whole "no longer Mormon" thing is the acme of stooopid.

Stem wrote:Hey friends. I wanted to point out that I was surprised by Scott's replies to me over on MD&D. He and I went back and forth a bit. I don't know if it'll continue and I"ll likely get booted from the thread at some point because that always happens. But take a look if you are interested.

Lloyd wrote:As became clear in follow-up discussion, I did not go along with rockpond’s use of the term “marketing.” It was a disagreement over word usage, nothing more.

I await your apology.

Lloyd wrote:I’m also aware that you apparently don’t have the integrity to admit when you’re wrong. You failed the test. 

Lemmie wrote:

Stem wrote:Hey friends. I wanted to point out that I was surprised by Scott's replies to me over on MD&D. He and I went back and forth a bit. I don't know if it'll continue and I"ll likely get booted from the thread at some point because that always happens. But take a look if you are interested.

Wow, that was weird.

Lloyd is starting to say some weird stuff.

Lloyd wrote:As became clear in follow-up discussion, I did not go along with rockpond’s use of the term “marketing.” It was a disagreement over word usage, nothing more.

I await your apology.

So a long-time reporter for a large newspaper doesn't understand what the word marketing means. And he wants an apology.

Lloyd wrote:I’m also aware that you apparently don’t have the integrity to admit when you’re wrong. You failed the test. 

Test?!?? What test???

An outside marketing firm suggested it be released in theaters. For two weeks in a row, it was in the top 10 films in the nation for per-theater average. Ultimately it placed among the top 35 documentaries of all time.

Lemmie wrote:So a long-time reporter for a large newspaper doesn't understand what the word marketing means. And he wants an apology.

I have a question wrote:Meet The Mormons wasn’t marketing claims Scott Lloyd, even though he reported at the time that the Church was taking marketing advice on the “franchise” from an outside marketing firm. And the Church even sold tickets for it! Even South Parks writers couldn’t make stuff like this up.

Scott labelling someone as lacking integrity because they cannot admit they were wrong in a thread where he has twisted himself into a pretzel of ridiculousness to avoid acknowledging that his claim about not recalling the church marketing the name Mormon was demonstrably disprovable by simply quoting from articles he wrote...is sensationally catastrophic to any vestige of credibility anybody anywhere might have seen in him. Gone.

Stem wrote:

I have a question wrote:Meet The Mormons wasn’t marketing claims Scott Lloyd, even though he reported at the time that the Church was taking marketing advice on the “franchise” from an outside marketing firm. And the Church even sold tickets for it! Even South Parks writers couldn’t make stuff like this up.

Scott labelling someone as lacking integrity because they cannot admit they were wrong in a thread where he has twisted himself into a pretzel of ridiculousness to avoid acknowledging that his claim about not recalling the church marketing the name Mormon was demonstrably disprovable by simply quoting from articles he wrote...is sensationally catastrophic to any vestige of credibility anybody anywhere might have seen in him. Gone.

I was entertained earlier by the twisting and turning he was doing. Got annoyed as soon as I saw him get all huffy with Julie, though. What a dink.

I didn't see that as "marketing the Church" so much as endeavoring to improve the public image of its members. To me, marketing implies selling of doctrines, overt recruiting, etc.

Exiled wrote:Scott Lloyd says:

I didn't see that as "marketing the Church" so much as endeavoring to improve the public image of its members. To me, marketing implies selling of doctrines, overt recruiting, etc.

As long as you believe it, no gas-lighting happens.

“Meet the Mormons” films are produced to be marketed internationally to television stations, to educate broadcasters who might inadvertently promote erroneous concepts about the Church, and to motivate broadcasters to produce other television programs on the Church. The films are also to be used in non-broadcast situations—open houses, firesides, and other special presentations—by missionaries and members to gain the interest of nonmembers.

What the film series does to accelerate missionary work is particularly noteworthy. The Canadian film, Takin’ Care, has become by far one of the most suitable means in Eastern Canada of introducing friends and investigators to the Church. It can prove especially effective if viewed by investigators early in their introduction to the gospel, as protection against erroneous concepts. The film brings many questions to mind and thus gets investigators interested in learning more.