Sextortionist sent on a Mission by LDS Church Apostle

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Sextortionist sent on a Mission by LDS Church Apostle

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A $500,000 arrest warrant was issued Monday for a South Jordan man accused of sextortion.

Gabe Ryan Gilbert, 19, has been charged with contacting juvenile girls on social media and threatening to photo-edit nude images of them if they would not send him real nude photos.

Gilbert is charged in 3rd District Court with five counts of aggravated sexual extortion of a child, a first-degree felony, and four counts of sexual exploitation of a minor, a second-degree felony.

The investigation began in August when agents with the Internet Crimes Against Children task force learned that Gilbert had been using Snapchat to extort teenage girls, according to charging documents.

A 15-year-old girl reported to authorities that Gilbert "had threatened to photoshop images of her face onto nude photos unless she sent real nude pictures of herself," the charges state. In one Snapchat conversation, Gilbert allegedly threatened to "expose" her if she didn't send a picture in one minute.

When investigators looked into Gilbert's Snapchat account, in which he was using an alias, "it was obvious the user had been engaging in very similar behavior with other underage girls. I identified well over 50 potential victims of this type of sexual extortion," investigators with the Utah Attorney General's Office wrote in the charges.

Agents went to Gilbert's home in March only to find out that he was serving a mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Mexico, and had left about two months after the alleged extortion attempt involving the 15-year-old, according to charging documents.

In April, "I was contacted by an attorney for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He stated the same day I spoke with (Gilbert's mom) about this case … she contacted the mission president and explained we had asked to speak with Gabe. The mission president called Gabe in and interviewed him. What Gabe said was not disclosed, but he was immediately sent home," the charges state.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900 ... s-say.html

Gilbert also allegedly pressured a girlfriend into sending nude photos of herself in 2017 when he was 17 and she was 15. She had already sent some photos and was reluctant to send more, but Gilbert "threatened to expose her and distribute the images she had already sent him unless she sent him more photos," the charges state.

In May 2018, Gilbert pressured a girl, believed to be between 14 and 16 years old, into sending explicit videos of herself, the charges state. He "aggressively threatened a Snapchat user that he would ruin her life by exposing her nude photos. He continued to repeat these threats while telling the user to record nude videos of herself and send them to him," according to the charges.

Investigators say he also threatened to "expose" a 16-year-old girl in June 2018 by sending pictures to her grandmother, and also threatened a 14-year-old girl the same month.

"His messages included threats to send rapists and human traffickers to her house," agents wrote in the charges. When the girl replied that she was not scared of Gilbert, he allegedly "sent four screenshots of (her) exact location, down to an image of her house."

Charging documents list three other underage girls that Gilbert threatened to photo-edit nude images on their faces if they did not send real nude selfies, according to charging documents.


I’d like the Apostle who assigned this young man to his mission to explain again how missionary assignments are given by divine inspiration...

He told me that in his own mind he liked to think of where the missionaries would conclude their mission. This would aid him to know where they were to be assigned. Elder Eyring would then study the comments from the bishops and stake presidents, medical notes, and other issues relating to each missionary.

He then referred to another screen which displayed areas and missions across the world. Finally, as he was prompted by the Spirit, he would assign the missionary to his or her field of labor.

From others of the Twelve, I learned that this general method was typical each week as Apostles of the Lord assign scores of missionaries to serve throughout the world.

After assigning a few missionaries, Elder Eyring turned to me as he pondered one particular missionary and said, “So, Brother Rasband, where do you think this missionary should go?” I was startled! I quietly suggested to Elder Eyring that I did not know and that I did not know I could know! He looked at me directly and simply said, “Brother Rasband, pay closer attention and you too can know!” With that, I pulled my chair a little closer to Elder Eyring and the computer screen, and I did pay much closer attention!

A couple of other times as the process moved along, Elder Eyring would turn to me and say, “Well, Brother Rasband, where do you feel this missionary should go?” I would name a particular mission, and Elder Eyring would look at me thoughtfully and say, “No, that’s not it!” He would then continue to assign the missionaries where he had felt prompted.

http://www.ldsliving.com/When-Elder-Ras ... d/s/90067/

Elder D. Todd Christofferson recently shared another look into how missionaries are assigned—one that testifies that these missionaries are assigned by the Lord, who knows them perfectly, and not by man.

Occasionally as I travel, I am asked questions about how missionaries are assigned to their missions.
I know that the Lord deeply knows each one of us perfectly. Individual missionary callings bear witness of His infinite love. I feel that each time I have the opportunity to assign missionaries to their particular field of labor. Some missionary assignments are revealed instantly, and others take a while, but the Lord always tells His authorized servants where His missionaries should go.

http://www.ldsliving.com/Elder-Christof ... ns/s/82827

Except for when they should go to jail, apparently. #spiritofdiscernment
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A couple of other times as the process moved along, Elder Eyring would turn to me and say, “Well, Brother Rasband, where do you feel this missionary should go?” I would name a particular mission, and Elder Eyring would look at me thoughtfully and say, “No, that’s not it!” He would then continue to assign the missionaries where he had felt prompted.


This is nuts. Within the last couple years I've been among those counseled by Eyring in an unofficial setting, and I swear this is part of a more general comedy routine he does. We're going along with something all-too-ordinary, and then bam! revelation intercedes with the unexpected. Revelation pertaining, of course, to something totally unfalsifiable. And then his audience giggles and smiles thinking, "oh, the irony, we thought one thing, but it looks like the Lord had something else in mind! ha ha ha, the spirit is just so marvelous!"

The funny thing though is I had to update my prior odds that I'd given the Brethren for being sincere, as I'd come generally to believe that they know it's all a sham but are too deep into it, and so have tricked themselves into thinking the Church is still the best thing out there and humanity needs it even if they don't buy into the supernatural stuff. But it seemed to me Erying really does believe the supernatural stuff. I mean, he could be faking that, or exaggerating for effect, but having been in the company of a couple folks who I would consider pathological liars, I didn't get that same feeling that he's just outright making stuff up. I think he's a head case, for sure, but I don't have a diagnosis at this time.
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Maybe they will bring him home without telling the police and employ him as a babysitter...
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I have a question wrote:I’d like the Apostle who assigned this young man to his mission to explain again how missionary assignments are given by divine inspiration...


That process has been explained.

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Gadianton wrote:...Eyring really does believe the supernatural stuff...I think he's a head case, for sure, but I don't have a diagnosis at this time.


Listening to him at other times and in different venues, I think I'd agree with you. As far as being a head case, I'd question that. What evidence, besides the fact that you don't believe he could actually receive revelation (no God to give it), is there that makes you choose this option? Are you saying that with all of his education and attainments and apparent sanity in other areas in his life, that he's somehow been duped into thinking that he's receiving revelation and not 'smart' enough to realize it?

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oliblish wrote:Maybe they will bring him home without telling the police and employ him as a babysitter...


My guess is he will be prosecuted and pay for his misdeeds. His cover, and illicit ways, have been blown...big time...for all the world to see. This is a sad story.

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mentalgymnast wrote:
I have a question wrote:I’d like the Apostle who assigned this young man to his mission to explain again how missionary assignments are given by divine inspiration...


That process has been explained.

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Yes, Its totally random, limited to markets that currently have opening and completely uninspired just like everything else that comes out of the mouths of this group of bigoted twits who claim to be the mouthpieces of elohim here on earth. Its a business process, no inspiration involved at all...and, yes, this has been explained over and over again it just seems that some believing members still like to believe there is some magical component to the whole thing.
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I have a question wrote:I’d like the Apostle who assigned this young man to his mission to explain again how missionary assignments are given by divine inspiration...


MG wrote:That process has been explained.


schreech wrote:...Its...limited to markets that currently have opening and...Its a business process...believing members still like to believe there is some magical component to the whole thing.


This part of what you said I agree with, including the element of the metaphysical. And yes, moving the gospel throughout the world is, in a sense, a "business process". It couldn't happen without a corporate church.

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mentalgymnast wrote:
schreech wrote:...Its...limited to markets that currently have opening and...Its a business process...believing members still like to believe there is some magical component to the whole thing.


This part of what you said I agree with, including the element of the metaphysical. And yes, moving the gospel throughout the world is, in a sense, a "business process". It couldn't happen without a corporate church.



mentalgymnast: In the above, you knowingly misquoted schreech and misrepresented his intent.
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mentalgymnast wrote:
schreech wrote:...Its...limited to markets that currently have opening and...Its a business process...believing members still like to believe there is some magical component to the whole thing.


This part of what you said I agree with, including the element of the metaphysical. And yes, moving the gospel throughout the world is, in a sense, a "business process". It couldn't happen without a corporate church.

Regards,
MG


Since you agree that there is no inspiration in these callings, you would also agree that the bigoted twits at the top should stop saying and printing things like:

“… In a world so large, the Creator … somehow not only knows you but loves you enough to ensure that your call is where He needs you to go to teach the children of our Heavenly Father.”

“I have had [many] experiences feeling of the Holy Ghost…But I’ve never felt what I have felt as I have…participated in the assigning of missionaries…Because of technology, it is possible for us to have your picture and the information about you displayed. And then quickly, on that same screen, all the missions of the Church with all of their needs are displayed. Within minutes, and sometimes less than a minute, the impression comes so powerfully that it would be, if it were a single instance, something that you would never forget. Can you imagine sitting there for hours at a time, having that happen time after time without interruption? I testify to you that it is real…[The Lord] somehow not only knows you but loves you enough to ensure that your call is where He needs you to go to teach the children of our Heavenly Father.” --Henry Eyring
Elder Henry B. Eyring of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, “Called of God”

"He said that it is by the great love of the Savior that His servants know where these wonderful young men and women, senior missionaries, and senior couple missionaries are to serve. I had a further witness that morning that every missionary called in this Church, and assigned or reassigned to a particular mission, is called by revelation from the Lord God Almighty through one of these, His servants."
Elder Ronald A. Rasband’s talk from the April 2010 Priesthood Session of General Conference

How Are Missionaries Called?

"An Apostle looks into each missionary’s eyes and receives revelation about where to assign him or her."

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/new-era/2015/06/how-are-missionaries-called?lang=eng


don't worry, don't worry, I know you are blindly devoted to the Mormon church and the douche canoes that lead it so I don't actually expect that you will agree with what i typed above. Im sure there is some convoluted, mind numbing rational that you use to excuse the fact that the leaders of the church claim inspiration when making every call but somehow missed the fact that this sexual predator was extorting young girls for nude pictures.
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